Marko's Flortis is the winner - Page 2

FILMNET · April 7, 2012

So am I confused, what in the world did i start? I have an Italian friend 95 years old, still tough as nails. He was gardener since 1939. He know the language, and i am giving him a Florist cheery plant and will show him both names

DiggingDogFarm · April 7, 2012

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Originally Posted by FILMNET

So am I confused, what in the world did i start? I have an Italian friend 95 years old, still tough as nails. He was gardener since 1939. He know the language, and i am giving him a Florist cheery plant and will show him both names

Better yet, show him a picture of the no nano original seed packet!!

~Martin

dustdevil · April 7, 2012

Flortis Cherry seems logical to me...we have a Burpee Big Boy and others with the company name incorporated into the name. Personally, I think it should be renamed "Marko's Flortis Cherry" and that will delineate it over the years if Flortis comes out with other generic cherry packets with a distinctively different variety inside.

salix · April 7, 2012

I agree with dustdevil, I have labelled mine as "Marko's Flortis Cherry" - don't think there will be a major problem with that, there are far more egregious naming/labelling errors/changes.

Iva · April 8, 2012

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Originally Posted by carolyn137

Iva, I found your comments interesting and why do you think that the Ciliega's that you've grown can be so different and did you purchase the seed from different Italian companies?

I often go to Italy as it is a neighbor country to Slovenia. Whenever I go there, I don't miss a chance to visit one of their garden centers and buy seeds. We don't have such variation of seeds at home.
And as it is normal for a Tomato lover to buy tomato seeds, I always bought all varieties I could get my hands on to grow them out. That was before I started trading across the pond and knowing there are m ore than just red tomatoes in existence...

Well, there were many cherry tomatoes sold by different seed companies and named either Ciliega or Ciliegia, just a different spelling for the same thing - a cherry tomato.

Tried many of them and all were slightly different in color, size texture and taste. None were all that good.

That is why I said you can't just put them all 'in the same basket' and say they should all be named just Ciliegia or similar. Because they were all very different.

I think it is similar to the story of Cuor di Bue or Cuore de Buof (I didn't bother to spell this right just now, sorry, but you know what I mean) and such, where all are a translation of the same thing, but some are the same and some are very different. That is just my two cents...

As for it being 'named' after a seed company, I don't mind that, the name sounds really nice, Flortis can be translated into Floral or Flower and that is really a nice name for a tomato, but it is up to Marko to decide what the name should be...

FILMNET · April 9, 2012

Translation of the packages says this Variety of Sweet Pulp Aromatic tomato Cherry
Italian translation of Sweet Cherry is Ciliegio Dolce

DiggingDogFarm · April 9, 2012

For what it's worth....
This is from the back of the packet......

Pomodoro Ciliegia. Varieta classica da aperitivi. Pianta medio alta, bacche piccole di colore rosso vivo dispote in grappoli.

My crude translation:
Cherry tomato. Classic cocktail variety. Medium height plant with small bright red berries arranged in clusters.

~Martin

Marko · April 10, 2012

Everything is true except plant height. It was the fastest growing and tallest tomato in my garden last year.

NewWestGardener · September 22, 2012

Today, I just collected 7.4 lbs of fruit from one plant. Look at those clusters, the fruit does not seem to be falling off easily, I'm just going to hang them up in the shed and see what happens. Drying off the others in Nesco.
I did not water or fertiliz them for the last 6 weeks, which obviously affected their size, but they are real troopers!.
A million thanks to Marko who generously sent me the seed!

ljp · September 23, 2012

Flortis Cherry has been the most productive tomato in my garden. It started early and has produced twice as many cherries as my other plants. Some of the others may catch up; but, they are far behind.

Medium height, it's a tomato. I find it similar the Sweet 100/Millions in production and taste.

Simone · September 23, 2012

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Originally Posted by NewWestGardener

Today, I just collected 7.4 lbs of fruit from one plant. Look at those clusters, the fruit does not seem to be falling off easily, I'm just going to hang them up in the shed and see what happens. Drying off the others in Nesco.
I did not water or fertiliz them for the last 6 weeks, which obviously affected their size, but they are real troopers!.
A million thanks to Marko who generously sent me the seed!

Hmmm,
i can not agree to you both!
First of all: I´am very very glad with this cherry. It tastes very good

But my clusters are much smaler and the fruits are bigger.

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Originally Posted by ljp

Flortis Cherry has been the most productive tomato in my garden. It started early and has produced twice as many cherries as my other plants. Some of the others may catch up; but, they are far behind.

Medium height, it's a tomato

And medium heights???
Ups, no, not really

I can not really say how high it is, but it is a really huge plant; maybe around 3,5 meter (around 11 foot). And it is still growing and producing.

So I´am very happy to have it!!!!

Greetings,

Simone

**carolyn137** · September 23, 2012

There are now two threads about this variety, one in the General Discussion Forum and one in this Seed Starting Forum.

So I'm cutting and pasting my report that I just did in the General Discussion Forum to here.

****

Marko, I'm sure, well pretty sure, that I'll find the seeds you sent me, but Alex did send me Nano Ciliega, as noted in an earlier post here, as well as Fiaschetto, both from Italy and both red cherries and I grew another red cherry, an heirloom from Serbia called Durmtorske.

Of the 40 plants out back I only got a few fruits from each of the above three and two unnamed pink heart fruits. A really terrible year here for my tomatoes for several reasons.

The tastes of both Ciliega and Fiaschetto were good, pretty much average, but the taste of Durmtorske I found to be outstanding.

I know I'll have seeds of Nano Ciliega to put in my seed offer for 2013, just in case there are any others here who didn't get seeds, but also for me to send for trial to several seed sites, But the person doing the seed production for the other two hasn't gotten back to me yet, so fingers crossed on those two.

This is the third season in a row that the growouts here at home have not done well, and it really does depress me, but Freda, who does all the gardening for me had a rough summer, without going into details and she simply was n't here enough to take care of them, get the weeds out of the containers and Gro-bags, fertilize, or spray for foliage diseases.

Then there was the weather, which was terrible.

OK, I'll shut up now, but I call the tomatoes I grow my tomato kids, not having any human kids, and I like to see them grow up and make a difference in the lives of other tomato growers if they do well. Kind of getting on the Honor Role at school, if you know what I mean.

ljp · September 23, 2012

And medium heights???
"Ups, no, not really

I can not really say how high it is, but it is a really huge plant; maybe around 3,5 meter (around 11 foot). And it is still growing and producing."

I'm reporting my experience in a zone 3a garden. Compared to other cherries I am growing it is medium to short. And it is in one of the sunniest locations I have.

April 9, 2012	#22
DiggingDogFarm Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York State Posts: 286	For what it's worth.... This is from the back of the packet...... Pomodoro Ciliegia. Varieta classica da aperitivi. Pianta medio alta, bacche piccole di colore rosso vivo dispote in grappoli. My crude translation: Cherry tomato. Classic cocktail variety. Medium height plant with small bright red berries arranged in clusters. ~Martin __________________ "The best thing about a vegetable garden is all the meat you can shoot and trap out of it!"

September 23, 2012	#25
ljp Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 189	Flortis Cherry has been the most productive tomato in my garden. It started early and has produced twice as many cherries as my other plants. Some of the others may catch up; but, they are far behind. Medium height, it's a tomato. I find it similar the Sweet 100/Millions in production and taste. Last edited by ljp; September 23, 2012 at 02:10 PM. Reason: add

September 23, 2012	#27
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	There are now two threads about this variety, one in the General Discussion Forum and one in this Seed Starting Forum. So I'm cutting and pasting my report that I just did in the General Discussion Forum to here. **** Marko, I'm sure, well pretty sure, that I'll find the seeds you sent me, but Alex did send me Nano Ciliega, as noted in an earlier post here, as well as Fiaschetto, both from Italy and both red cherries and I grew another red cherry, an heirloom from Serbia called Durmtorske. Of the 40 plants out back I only got a few fruits from each of the above three and two unnamed pink heart fruits. A really terrible year here for my tomatoes for several reasons. The tastes of both Ciliega and Fiaschetto were good, pretty much average, but the taste of Durmtorske I found to be outstanding. I know I'll have seeds of Nano Ciliega to put in my seed offer for 2013, just in case there are any others here who didn't get seeds, but also for me to send for trial to several seed sites, But the person doing the seed production for the other two hasn't gotten back to me yet, so fingers crossed on those two. This is the third season in a row that the growouts here at home have not done well, and it really does depress me, but Freda, who does all the gardening for me had a rough summer, without going into details and she simply was n't here enough to take care of them, get the weeds out of the containers and Gro-bags, fertilize, or spray for foliage diseases. Then there was the weather, which was terrible. OK, I'll shut up now, but I call the tomatoes I grow my tomato kids, not having any human kids, and I like to see them grow up and make a difference in the lives of other tomato growers if they do well. Kind of getting on the Honor Role at school, if you know what I mean. __________________ Carolyn

April 7, 2012	#16
FILMNET Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Charleston,South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,803	So am I confused, what in the world did i start? I have an Italian friend 95 years old, still tough as nails. He was gardener since 1939. He know the language, and i am giving him a Florist cheery plant and will show him both names

April 7, 2012	#18
dustdevil Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: WI, USA Zone4 Posts: 1,887	Flortis Cherry seems logical to me...we have a Burpee Big Boy and others with the company name incorporated into the name. Personally, I think it should be renamed "Marko's Flortis Cherry" and that will delineate it over the years if Flortis comes out with other generic cherry packets with a distinctively different variety inside.

April 7, 2012	#19
salix Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: north central B.C. Posts: 2,310	I agree with dustdevil, I have labelled mine as "Marko's Flortis Cherry" - don't think there will be a major problem with that, there are far more egregious naming/labelling errors/changes.

April 10, 2012	#23
Marko Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Slovenia, Europe zone 7b Posts: 300	Everything is true except plant height. It was the fastest growing and tallest tomato in my garden last year.