Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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October 29, 2017 | #1 |
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Please help ID this paste tomato
To the wonderful experts here:
I am dying to know what this variety is. I planted a dozen of paste varieties at the farm field I volunteered. It's pretty labor intensive, I rushed to get all plants in so some labels were lost, this is one of them. It's a red paste, determinant or semi determinant growth habit, pretty productive, a good performer under minimal care. All fruit have this shape, long and narrow, not a pear, not oval., and they come in neat clusters. My estimate, each weighed about 3-4 0z (all of my field tomatoes are underweight). I know many varieties have this shape. I narrowed it down my list, so it could be one of the following: Hungarian Italian, San Marzano Redorta, or Italian Super Paste. Which one? It should be one of these three. I also grew Polish Linguisa, Polish Pastel,San Marzano Gigante, Ferdele, Cow's T-i-ts ,I Opalka, Rio Grande, Roma VF, Marianna F1. Sorry for a difficult puzzle with limited clues. I hate to not to honor a good variety next year without a proper ID, and not able to share seeds. Last edited by NewWestGardener; October 29, 2017 at 04:56 PM. |
October 29, 2017 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
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Any pics?
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October 29, 2017 | #3 |
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Without pics, it's very hard to really help just on description alone. Even with pics, we can only really get you close.
If you can get pics of a couple of the fruit, the leaves, and the plant, that would help a lot.
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October 29, 2017 | #4 |
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All plants and tomatoes are gone. All I can find is a photo with a cross section of the fruit. The one on the right in a diagnal orientation is one of those. The long and narrow shape is unique for this variety among my other tomatoes.
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October 29, 2017 | #5 |
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Here's Tania's list of paste tomatoes, about 400 plus to date
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/C...Paste_Tomatoes I was looking at your picture and went to Tania's data base,but there are so many similar ones that I gave up. I started counting the ones I had already grown myself and gave up on that as well. Perhaps you saved some seeds from the ones you were growing that you showed in the picture . And then processed those seeds so you can grow them next summer and see what you get. Even if you didn't process the seeds, just dry them down and put them in an envelope to store over the winter. There are many here who can share with you how to wake them up and get germination. Carolyn
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October 29, 2017 | #6 |
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Another thought here - this variety could even be some otherwise 'unknown' or non-named variety.. You mentioned you were growing this in a field you volunteered - Were these seeds you bought, or were they given to you? .. or did someone else plant them?
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October 29, 2017 | #7 |
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Of the 3 you think it is one of, I think it is the San MR.
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Quote:
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/San_Marzano. And Sirtanon makes a good point as well when this was noted in a post above (Another thought here - this variety could even be some otherwise 'unknown' or non-named variety.. You mentioned you were growing this in a field you volunteered - Were these seeds you bought, or were they given to you? .. or did someone else plant them?) Carolyn
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October 29, 2017 | #9 |
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It surely is one of the varieties I listed in my first post. No one else planted in the field.
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October 29, 2017 | #10 |
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Thanks Carolyn for looking them up, almost an impossible task. Most likely it is one of The Three I listed. I hope to narrow it down to one.
I saved lots of seeds, and will grow it again next year, just wish I know what it is. Q QUOTE=carolyn137;669796]Here's Tania's list of paste tomatoes, about 400 plus to date http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/C...Paste_Tomatoes I was looking at your picture and went to Tania's data base,but there are so many similar ones that I gave up. I started counting the ones I had already grown myself and gave up on that as well. Perhaps you saved some seeds from the ones you were growing that you showed in the picture . And then processed those seeds so you can grow them next summer and see what you get. Even if you didn't process the seeds, just dry them down and put them in an envelope to store over the winter. There are many here who can share with you how to wake them up and get germination. Carolyn[/QUOTE] |
October 29, 2017 | #11 |
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October 29, 2017 | #12 |
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Going strictly on your list of three possibilities and the one photo, I would agree with Karen - San Marzano Redorta. My mother grows a ton of them every year and loves them for drying because of their long, narrow shape.
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October 29, 2017 | #13 |
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I thought Redorta.
If you have any original seed, as well as saved, you could plant them both next year to compare. *I have a similar mystery and plan to do just that next year |
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