Fusarium race 3 resistant tomato varieties?

[Love2Troll]

Bad fusarium problem for this container grower and plants usually dead by Aug/Sept with plant out late April/early May. Are there any good hybrids on the market?

jt

[Fusion_power]

Depends on what you mean by 'good'.

Amelia is F1, F2, and F3 tolerant plus TSWV.

Soraya is another one with F1, F2, and F3.

Solar Fire

Crista

Fletcher

BHN 640

BHN 602

Sebring

I won't go into details on them, you can look it up online. Most of these are available from www.seedway.com

DarJones

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Love2Troll

Bad fusarium problem for this container grower and plants usually dead by Aug/Sept with plant out late April/early May. Are there any good hybrids on the market?

jt

John, Darrel has answered you and I'm glad he did b'c living where I do there's no Fusarium problem so I'm not up to date on such tolerant varieties. And I mean tolerant, not resistant.

But what you've said interests me b'c you're one of very few who has said that F is hitting your container grown plants. Most folks who grow in containers don't have an F problem b'c of not using native soil, but Craig LeHoullier and a few others who grow in containers and know F symtoms well, have had problems.

I know that there are a few links at Google that say F can be spread by means other than infection thru the roots via contaminated soil, and do so by wind transmission of F laden soil ( dust) with F spores, but not many have paid attention to that.

So I'm glad to be able to point this out to gardeners who live in areas where races of 1, 2 or 3 are present and known to be present in the local area soils and are growing in containers.

[Love2Troll]

Hi Darrel,

Thanks for the reply. I was going through my seeds yesterday and found several old pkgs from both you and Carolyn.

By good I mean edible. I know I'm going to be disappointed, but I just am so tired of getting a few of the first fruits and then watch the plants die.

jt

[Fusion_power]

John,

I can vouch for Amelia. It is a solid performer in my climate. Only problem for it is early blight and in the heat of summer, nematodes can overwhelm it. It is nematode tolerant, but as with all N varieties, at higher soil temps, the tolerance breaks down. it is a determinate that produces large 4 inch diameter fruit and has loads of them.

On a separate thought, I have some seed from an Eva Purple Ball X Big Beef cross that shows the highest level of early blight tolerance I've ever seen. It won't be even close to stable, but I hope within 2 or 3 years to have a pink tomato that is worth growing and packs some serious disease tolerance.

Darrel Jones

[Love2Troll]

Hi Carolyn, long time....

Was it Craig that had his plants tested or was it Hesoid1?

I'm reasonably certain mine can be spread by insect or wind vector. New soil mix, sterilize container & cage w/bleach etc and doesn't seem to matter. I haven't sprayed pesticides or fungicides for many years now, but someone last year convinced me to buy a Bonide product with pyrithrins & rotenone in it. Didn't use it and probably never will.

I'll graft some Sungold, Marianna's Peace and Brandywine seedlings onto some older C. chinense and C. pubescens branches and see what happens.

The only thing else I can think to do is stagger my seed starting and planting times so can always collect a few tomatoes a week from a young plant. Don't need many, but I get pretty cranky when can't have in my near daily salads in the growing season. Only room for 20 tomato plants which limits what I can do.

Thanks for reply!

jt

[Love2Troll]

Darrel,

I'll give Amelia a try. Don't have much of a blight problem here & I'll buy a bail of ProMix BX for new soil mix and sterilize the containers with bleach.

Thanks!

jt

[carolyn137]

Was it Craig that had his plants tested or was it Hesoid1?

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It was Hesiod 1 that had his tested at the Rutgers lab and I seem to remember it was F3, in NJ yet.

Craig never had his tested and I don't remember if he even knows what race he has there in NC, but I was speaking more to the issue of non-root transmission than I was of specific races.

And I know from a phone chat with Randy Gardner in W NC that F3 is there and in some adjacent states to the west of NC.

Some folks have noticed that it really makes a difference how cold the winter is and what the depth of soil freezing is in terms of whether or not the Fusarium spores can over winter. I mean in marginal areas such as Hes in NJ. There still is no large problem with F up here unless it gets brought in with plants shipped in from an F area.

[Love2Troll]

Thanks all for the help!

Seed starting this weekend & I have almost no experience with determinates. How should I stagger seed starting Amelia to have tomatoes up to November?

jt

[Fusion_power]

Start seed every 4 weeks until June.

Let me know if you need any seed. I have plenty of Amelia, BHN640, etc.

Better yet, give me a call when you have a little time to talk. I would love to talk about some of the peppers you sent me 4 years ago.

DarJones (phone number is on my website at http://www.selectedplants.com/ )

[Love2Troll]

Hi Darrel,

Started all my seeds today. Kinda put all my eggs in one basket with Amelia. Started 30 of 50 seeds from Willhite and have 20 8 gal containers for them. Started a few each Sungold & Marianna's Peace that will graft onto Amelia rootstock to see what happens re fusarium resistance. I could happily live with just MP and the Sungold, but unfortunately they don't survive past mid-summer before the fusarium gets them. As per your advice will restart Amelia at one month intervals starting Mar 14th and ending June 13th and hope for continuous production.

Wish I could remember what pepper seeds I sent you 4 years ago. Am guessing probably C. pubescens varieties. (still my fav hot pepper of all time) Just nothing like them for ho-made burritos and salsas.

I'll give you a call early this week in the morning.

Thanks much!!

jt

[Polar_Lace]

JT,

If you want some VF tomato seeds of Roma or Balcony Hybrid (VF Alternaria & Stem Canker.) I can also send you "Fourth of July" Hybrid, Ind. I don't know if they're VF, but they do produce by July 1-4. I think that's early enough before VF can get them. If you do want any, just PM me your address so I can send some to you.

~* Robin

[Love2Troll]

Hi Robin,

I appreciate the offer, but it's race 3 fusarium resistance that I need, not race 1 and/or 2. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...Search&aq=f&oq=

Thanks anyways

jt

[Polar_Lace]

Ok JT, I just wanted to help.

Thanks for the info.

~* Robin