Potato leaf purples, How Many? - Page 2

stormymater · February 18, 2009

"I went back to the 1986 Yearbook and was riffling through and found one variety listed that intrigued me a bit:

Potato Top ( Peruvian Black). deep purple tomato, reportedly developed buy an old woman in Eastern KY, looks like Pondersosa but the color of Black Beauty eggplant."
So how does one go about trying to resurrect a variety that was listed 23 years ago? It certainly does sound intriguing! The color description makes me think of that black thing being worked on by the OSU folks (I think that's who it was anyway). True dark purple would be a beautiful (&hopefully tasty) addition to a garden (imagining Husky colors - purple & gold) in the tomato patch!

Vince · February 18, 2009

I guess I don't mean purple potato Leaf, but pink/black PL.

I will have to look threw all of the varieties mentioned tonight after work and try to update the list. It is a little confusing since many of the suggested varieties are not black, RL, red/black, or for some such as purple passion there are more than one color and leaf type description.

**carolyn137** · February 18, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormymater

"I went back to the 1986 Yearbook and was riffling through and found one variety listed that intrigued me a bit:

Potato Top ( Peruvian Black). deep purple tomato, reportedly developed buy an old woman in Eastern KY, looks like Pondersosa but the color of Black Beauty eggplant."
So how does one go about trying to resurrect a variety that was listed 23 years ago? It certainly does sound intriguing! The color description makes me think of that black thing being worked on by the OSU folks (I think that's who it was anyway). True dark purple would be a beautiful (&hopefully tasty) addition to a garden (imagining Husky colors - purple & gold) in the tomato patch!

First, when I have the time and the motivation I'll look at some other early SSE YEarbooks and see if anyone else I might know listed it.

If not, at that time I don't think that SSE itself was asking for anyone who lists varieties to send them to SSE ( they send the proper money and request form and I always return the money) for permanet storage.

Second, well, I don't have a backup plan to what I said was first to do.

**nctomatoman** · February 18, 2009

The Peruvian Black was never found. Early on, in the "search for varieties" section, a few people mentioned that they were looking for that particular very dark purple tomato. Kent Whealy in one yearbook wondered if Prudens Purple could have been it...but of course the color wasn't right.

So the mystery was never solved....

dice · February 18, 2009

Rita's Black is PL, too, but I have not grown it, so I can't
say whether it is pink/black or red/black. Looking at photos
on the WWW gives ambiguous impressions (camera differences,
photo software differences, monitor differences, etc). Carbon
always looks red/black to me in pictures, for example, but if it
has clear skin it would be a pink/black.

**nctomatoman** · February 18, 2009

There are lots of good pics of many of these from Tomatopaloozas past...one year I grew out as many purples and browns as I had seed of, and Lee did a good job documenting them. They should be linked in the Tomatopalooza threads. But as you say, Dice, the brown/purple thing is best seen in good light and "in person", as different monitors or cameras can fail to pick up on the distinctions.

PNW_D · February 18, 2009

And this one .........

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/PPP_x_PP_%22C%22

actually all A, B, C, D, E were purple PL - but this is the only one that has been grown to F5

travis · February 19, 2009

In response to the original question, Black Elephant is a stable OP black/pink variety on a potato leaf vine. Unfortunately, there is a regular leaf also called Black Elephant listed in some of the Yearbooks, but the one from A. Baranovski is potato leaf.

February 18, 2009	#17
Vince Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 942	I guess I don't mean purple potato Leaf, but pink/black PL. I will have to look threw all of the varieties mentioned tonight after work and try to update the list. It is a little confusing since many of the suggested varieties are not black, RL, red/black, or for some such as purple passion there are more than one color and leaf type description. __________________ Vince

February 18, 2009	#19
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	The Peruvian Black was never found. Early on, in the "search for varieties" section, a few people mentioned that they were looking for that particular very dark purple tomato. Kent Whealy in one yearbook wondered if Prudens Purple could have been it...but of course the color wasn't right. So the mystery was never solved.... __________________ Craig

February 18, 2009	#20
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	Rita's Black is PL, too, but I have not grown it, so I can't say whether it is pink/black or red/black. Looking at photos on the WWW gives ambiguous impressions (camera differences, photo software differences, monitor differences, etc). Carbon always looks red/black to me in pictures, for example, but if it has clear skin it would be a pink/black. __________________ -- alias

February 18, 2009	#21
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	There are lots of good pics of many of these from Tomatopaloozas past...one year I grew out as many purples and browns as I had seed of, and Lee did a good job documenting them. They should be linked in the Tomatopalooza threads. But as you say, Dice, the brown/purple thing is best seen in good light and "in person", as different monitors or cameras can fail to pick up on the distinctions. __________________ Craig

February 18, 2009	#22
PNW_D Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 961	And this one ......... http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/PPP_x_PP_%22C%22 actually all A, B, C, D, E were purple PL - but this is the only one that has been grown to F5 __________________ D.

February 18, 2009	#16
stormymater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pleasure Island, NC 8a Posts: 1,162	"I went back to the 1986 Yearbook and was riffling through and found one variety listed that intrigued me a bit: Potato Top ( Peruvian Black). deep purple tomato, reportedly developed buy an old woman in Eastern KY, looks like Pondersosa but the color of Black Beauty eggplant." So how does one go about trying to resurrect a variety that was listed 23 years ago? It certainly does sound intriguing! The color description makes me think of that black thing being worked on by the OSU folks (I think that's who it was anyway). True dark purple would be a beautiful (&hopefully tasty) addition to a garden (imagining Husky colors - purple & gold) in the tomato patch!

February 19, 2009	#23
travis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,984	In response to the original question, Black Elephant is a stable OP black/pink variety on a potato leaf vine. Unfortunately, there is a regular leaf also called Black Elephant listed in some of the Yearbooks, but the one from A. Baranovski is potato leaf.