Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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November 10, 2009 | #1 |
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Amish Old Red
I grew this variety two years ago and plan to do so again, because of taste and size of the fruit. However, I can't find much backround info on it, such as its origin, etc. If anyone can shed some light I would appreciate it. My original seed came from Carolyn's offer in 2007.
Alex
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I'm going on fumes of memory here but I'm pretty sure it was a variety that Chuck Wyatt introduced and as I remember was a beefsteak. I checked Chuck's old website but it's not listed anymore. There's a variety called Amish Red that I see by Google but that's not it. Give me some time to look in my back SSE YEarbooks to see what I can find. I also checked Tatiana's site but it's not there either. Amish Old Red.........hmmmmm.
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November 10, 2009 | #3 |
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Hey Alex,
Found it on a site called the sample seed shop. It is on the seed inventory list but not the list for purchase so I assume that they are out. Perhaps contacting them you can find out if they will have it for 2010. http://sampleseeds.com/?page_id=33 Kevin |
November 10, 2009 | #4 |
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Carolyn,
You did offer it in '07. The packet I have says the seed was from '06. Alex, I'm glad you had better results than me. It didn't do that well for me, but it was really hot and very dry 2 years ago and some plants just sulked. Remy
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November 10, 2009 | #5 |
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Thanks for the responses. Carolyn, the package has 07 on it and I also backtracked th original offer just to confirm. I think it is on page 4 of Available for Trade thread. I grew it in 07 and as I recall it was PL with quite large beefsteaks, don't remember whether it was pink or red.
Kevin thanks for the lead. I sill have some original seed from Carolyn and what I saved from the grow out. It is a nice tomato and it would be interesting to learn something of its origin. Alex
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November 10, 2009 | #6 |
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I checked the Sample seed shop but while it's in their inventory they aren't selling seeds of it so no description.
And I did look in quite a few back Yearbooks but didn't find it yet, and I really can't remember if Chuck even listed it in the Yearbook. Maybe it was sold for just a few years at his old website. he and I just used to send each other varieties. Chuck died in June of 2002. Remy, in 2006 I was growing a very few varieties here at home and can see if I can find my notes, but don't remember growing it here, but do remember growing it before that in the early 2000's. But, but, I now do remember what Chuck told me, b'c I'm sure it was his variety. he said that he and Joyce, his wife, drove to PA for a weekend ( they lived in N MD) and he stopped at a road stand that was run by an Amish family and saw some fruits that looked good. He bought some, saved the seed and named it Amish Old Red b'c as he bought it it had no name. Sigh. I guess my memory is at least still half intact. In the next few weeks I'll be sorting out and putting back in some kind of order my tomato seeds and when I run across Amish Old Red I'll take a look at the date of seed production, b/c as I said, in 2006 I grew very few varieties and all here at home, was using the w3alker then, as now, and can't see growing a variety I never listed in the Yearbook when my goal was to grow only varieties new to all or msot. Oh well. And I just looked at my records back to about 2003 and I still don't see it. Triple Sigh. I know I grew it at the old farm and the last time I grew anything there was 1998. Was the germination OK on the seeds that I sent? Were the fruits red or pink? Did I send out Amish Potato Leaf as Amish Old Red? This is getting to me, it really is. Stay tuned.
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November 10, 2009 | #7 |
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Hey Carolyn,
Can't resist picking on ya a bit but take a look at the following Tvile link and scroll down a bit. Heck I will be 47 and I forget things. Heck half the time I can't remember a 5 item shopping list unless it is wrote down. http://tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=3290 Kevin |
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I just can't find it on my grow lists, so am hoping that those above share with me what it was like as to plant habit, leaf form, fruit color and size and shape. And when I find those seeds, b'c I've seen them as I've riffled through my stocks looking for other varieties I should know more. Oh, and I want to know what germination was like for you Alex and also you Remy. My thinking is that I could have goofed on the 2006 seed date since I said in that 2007 offer that I was offering varieties back to 2000 or so. I should have the Word docs for seed offers from 2006 and 2005 as well, and they should also be in that Forum if one goes back far enough. Thanks
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November 11, 2009 | #9 |
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Carolyn,
Didn't mean to get you all excited, but I appreciate the effort. The germination was fine, I still have some of the original seed you sent. The plant I grew was large PL and produced huge beefsteaks. Can't recall the colour exactly. Overall I was impressed with it and want to grow it again. I checked most of the sites that provide info on species and found no info on Amish Old Red. I suspect that it might be Amish Potatoleaf, so I initiated this query in the hope of correctly identifying it. Alex
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November 11, 2009 | #10 |
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Darn now I can't read right lol. Sorry bout that.
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