Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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December 23, 2011 | #61 | |
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Did you go to the Adaptive website and look at what I referred to as to wrong species name for quite a few small ones, species names that Gerhard Bohl uses that he's about the only one who uses them. A couple of years ago someone at the SSE message site asked about the columbianum one and that one was traced back to I think adaptive seeds as well/ Some of the small ones shown at Adaptive seeds are currants and some are not, like the cheesmanni one. And now for me to see what I can get done here at home since Freda is very ill and I have to figure out how I'm going to do a lot of things and maybe I'll have to call someone to help me which I really don't want to do just before Xmas when everyone is so busy. Oops. three hours have gone by and Randy was here delivering some home made fudge his wife made and the George stopped by with an expensive box of dark chocolates from he and his wife. Whoa is me.
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December 29, 2011 | #62 |
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I know two red cherries I can't be without are Fox Cherry and Besser Cherry. Besser is sweeter while Fox is mildly acidic and much larger than a cherry. Both are prolific. My other 2011 best cherry was Snow White which was very sweet, productive turning a pale yellow when ripe. These three selections beat out Sungold (grown by a friend) by far and even Black Cherry that everyone raves about. Everyones different I guess.
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December 30, 2011 | #63 |
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I grow Velvet Red, a red cherry. My seed source was SSE. It was good. Not as good as Sungold. IMO nothing else is. Velvet Red won the taste testing at Heritage Farms one year.
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December 30, 2011 | #64 |
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What is it about cherry tomatoes that makes it so difficult for breeders to come up with really good tasting ones?
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December 30, 2011 | #65 | |
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I was the person who first introduced and listed Velvet Red in the SSE YEarbook, seeds form Joe Bratka many many years ago. http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Velvet_Red I love the finely dissected angora foliage that sparkles in the sun but never thought much of the taste of the fruits given other options for red cherries. Which is why I was surprised when you said it won a taste test at SSE one year, which I don't rememeber. Ah well, if we all experienced the same taste for the fruits of a particular variety it would be a dull year in the tomato patch.
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December 30, 2011 | #66 | |
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I just think tomatoes taste better in Decorah. That is my explanation. I am biased. |
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December 31, 2011 | #67 |
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I was given some SSE seeds for Velvet Red this year, and I too am surprised that it won a taste test. Nothing out of the ordinary at all for me. But it was growing next to Sungold, Black Cherry and Snow White, so that was stiff cherry competition.
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December 31, 2011 | #68 | |
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And I know the competition this past summer wasn't that great either since my long time good friend Craig LeHoullier was kind of in charge of the 2011 taste testing and reported back. And yes, I've been to SSE in the past, invited to give a talk about heirloom tomatoes, so have tasted some of the tomatoes grown there. I love your comment about being biased but then you say you've never been to a tomato tastring there. Whatever, for what's important here is that almost everyone likes tomatoes but depending on a gazillion variables a single variety doesn't always taste the same to everyone, thank heavens.
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January 3, 2012 | #69 | |
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My comment about being biased wasn't referring to the taste test. I guess I shouldn't have said what I did. IMO the soil and growing conditions in the area that Heritage Farms is located is ideal. You can throw a seed in the ground there and it grows. The soil is rich. The summers aren't to hot or to cold. I just love the area. That is why I said it. I even buy meat down there when I visit because I believe it tastes better. I just suggested a red cherry I had tried because it hadn't previously been mentioned in this thread. That and I guess I was remembering an old family joke. |
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