Trying Brandywine... trying once again. Which strain?

[feldon30]

jhp,

Have you grown Earl's Faux? It is a fantastic pink PL.

[jhp]

YES! I forgot to mention! I DO grow Earl's Faux. Since I first grew it a few years ago, it has a place in my garden every year from now on. Love it! I am happy to grow it. I am revisiting Brandywine because one of my seedling recipients asked for it. I should give him a EF too while I'm at it.

THanks for the reminder Feldon.

[carolyn137]

So, does anyone have some cowlick's seeds? I can send SASE.


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Jen, I'm sure someone will offer you some Cowlicks seeds but it really is best to ask for seeds in the Wanted subforum of the Seed Exchange. We'd like to discourage asking for seeds in threads .

Just a gentle suggestion and not just for you but also for anyone reading here, b/c I can tell you that I, for one, simply cannot keep up with all the new members who have registered and the increased number of threads/posts.

I go pack more seeds for my seed offer and come back in a couple of hours and have I can't tell you how many e-mails with updates of messages here. But truthfully, if I didn't post in so many threads that wouldn't happen.

So I guess I have only myself to blame for that.

[jhp]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

So, does anyone have some cowlick's seeds? I can send SASE.


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Jen, I'm sure someone will offer you some Cowlicks seeds but it really is best to ask for seeds in the Wanted subforum of the Seed Exchange. We'd like to discourage asking for seeds in threads .

Just a gentle suggestion and not just for you but also for anyone reading here, b/c I can tell you that I, for one, simply cannot keep up with all the new members who have registered and the increased number of threads/posts.

Sorry to have offended you (and anyone else) Carolyn.

[Dewayne mater]

I don't think anyone is mad or offended, just letting you know the best way to keep the whole site and organized and efficient as possible!

I grew Cowlicks in an earthtainer last year for the first time. It was productive and very tasty. The fruit were significantly smaller than the BW Suddeth that I've grown in the ground in prior years in my garden...so, not a fair comparison. This year, they will grow side by side, along with BW from Croatia for a better comparison among the 3. If you have the space, it would be great to try multiple B.W.s and taste test for your personal preference.

Dewayne Mater.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by jhp

Sorry to have offended you (and anyone else) Carolyn.

Jen, you didn't offend me at all, I was just trying to be helpful.

What has happened in the past is that someone will ask for seeds in a thread when something they want is mentioned. And in some cases the person mentioning the variety has had no intention of doing a seed offer, or anything like that. And then it puts the pressure on that person who mentioned the variety and that isn't a good scene. And sometimes some varieties are very rare and when someone asks in a thread for that rare one and others don't see that, it not only puts the pressure on the person who mentioned it but also gives an unfair advantage to that one person.

Does that make sense? I hope so, b'c Tville is a Community and one of the major goals is to have fairness and good interaction between folks stay at a high level.

IN this thread since so many have mentioned Cowlicks I'm sure that someone will offer you seeds.

But in general, it is discouraged to ask for seeds in a thread. The Seed Exchange Wanted Forum is set up as a place to ask for varieties or where they can be found.

And while I'm here, it's a no no to PM someone to ask for seeds, but that and other no no's are already posted in the TOS ( terms of service) here at Tville, to which everyone who registers should agree with. The problem is that not everyone reads those TOS guidelines and they really should, especially about the one that says it's a no no to PM someone with a link to another message site; its' called recruiting.

So again, I was just trying to be helpful and no offense given or taken.

If anyone here hasn't read the TOS I think you might want to. It's in the very first place at the top where it says How to Become a Tomato Villian.

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=166

No folks, you won't find minor things like asking for seeds in a thread but you will find some much more major guidelines to consider.

[ArcherB]

I've heard that "Brandywine from Croatia" is supposed to be good. I'm growing it for the first time this year along with Cowlick's Brandywine. I am also growing Sudduth's Strain this year with did awesome for me last year.

Since I can only go off what I've read, here is what I understand.

Sudduth (awesome) < Cowlick < Croatia

But again, Sudduth is the only one I've grown myself. I hope to know more before July.

Here (http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=19865) is where I got my seeds, but it seems the offer is closed now. If I get any tomatoes from this plant, I'll definitely save seeds and off you some if you like, but that won't help you for this year.

[Mark0820]

I have some Cowlick's seed I purchased from Knapp's Fresh Veggies last year. If you want some, send me a PM with your address.

[recruiterg]

BW Sudduth is the best, in my opinion, especially if you are growing purely for taste. No question about it. If productivity is a huge concern, then try the others. Interestingly, Aunt Ginny's Purple tasted better than BWS this year in my garden. I like that blend of sweet and tart. The others are similar, but have more pronounced tartness than sweetness. Just my tastebuds talking.

[Willie Wharfer]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Welcome Jason, or did I miss seeing your intro post in Town Hall?

Anyway, I know from whence you cometh and who you are, and I thought the following link might be of interest to you since a Brandywine Heart is out there but good luck on that natural cross.

http://www.vintageveggies.com/inform...randywine.html

A couple of years ago someone sent me seeds for an Orange Minsk heart and I never thought it would come true, but it did, and I would have listed in this year's seed offer but didn't have enough seeds.

Yep, I made a post in town hall saying hello and that some people know me as Summerhawk and some people know me as Hawk from whence I have cometh You might know some of my friends but you don't know me really well. Perhaps I made the mistake of a bad first impression somehow? I try to like all people and live by the golden rule. I know a lot of really nice people. Keep in mind that there are many types of people. I am my own person much as you are your own person. I have no issue with anyone. I come in peace and I come with a smile. Thank you for the link Carolyn. I will post pictures this year of the heart shape if it shows up again this year. I have pictures from this past year. I have a feeling that we will see some neat things with heart tomatoes in the future!

Orange Minsk Heart sounds great. I grew Orange Minsk this year and liked it. It was a healthy plant with nice tomatoes.

This year I plan on trying to make a cross between Pink Livingston x Yellow Brandywine. I have a friend that likes these two tomatoes. I want to surprise him with some seeds.

Everyone has some good input here.

Thanks,

Jason

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Willie Wharfer

Yep, I made a post in town hall saying hello and that some people know me as Summerhawk and some people know me as Hawk from whence I have cometh You might know some of my friends but you don't know me really well. Perhaps I made the mistake of a bad first impression somehow? I try to like all people and live by the golden rule. I know a lot of really nice people. Keep in mind that there are many types of people. I am my own person much as you are your own person. I have no issue with anyone. I come in peace and I come with a smile. Thank you for the link Carolyn. I will post pictures this year of the heart shape if it shows up again this year. I have pictures from this past year. I have a feeling that we will see some neat things with heart tomatoes in the future!

Orange Minsk Heart sounds great. I grew Orange Minsk this year and liked it. It was a healthy plant with nice tomatoes.

This year I plan on trying to make a cross between Pink Livingston x Yellow Brandywine. I have a friend that likes these two tomatoes. I want to surprise him with some seeds.

Everyone has some good input here.

Thanks,

Jason

Well I did miss you in the Town Hall intro area so a warm welcome to you.

I wasn't really trying to imply anthing, really, for we all have our own opinions about almost everything to do with tomatoes as I see it.

That would be Livingston's Pink Oxheart you're talking about crossed with Yellow Brandywine?

I'm sure you know of Mike Dunton's interest in the Livingstons and Craig ( nctomatoman) is right up there with Mike on that and has contributed several of them to Mike.

Way back when it was possible to do so Craig and I got a lot of varieties out of the USDA and I think most of the Livingstons Craig got.

But an amusing story about Magnus, which was on the 1900 cover of the Livingston catalog.

Craig couldn't get any of those seeds from the USDA to germinate so he sent what was left over to me. After about a month and a half I got ONE up and it was PL, thank heavens, but of course I was late getting it out.

At the time my mother was still living in the old farmhouse and I was living in an apt about 20 min away. All my tomato gardens, actually a field, and so much more were at the farm. So Fall approached and I was getting worried about that Magnus plant b'c it had blossoms and had set some fruit, but, there wasn't much time left before first Fall frost. So every AM on the way to work I'd stop at the farm and take the covering off it that I'd put there on the way home from work the previous day.

So finally I saw two fruits starting to color up. I took them inside and put them on the counter and told my mother I'd be by on the weekend to get them.

The weekend came. No fruits. I asked her where they were and she said they ripened up and she put them in a salad. I almost wanted to cry.

But frost was late and several more turned color and I was able to get them ripe and set up a fermentation.

All to say that all the Magnus seeds now available came from my tomato field and that one plant.

[erlyberd]

Jen, I've grown out the same source of BW Red RL for the past 6 years or so with dissapointing results. When were talking 164 days from the day the seed is sown to picking the first ripe fruit its just wrong! LOL Your welcome to as many seeds as you want. I'll be not wasting my valuable garden space anymore.

I also have Brandywine Pink potato-leafed if you'd like to try them as well. Not sure but I think this Pick variety is going to be too slow for my liking.

Perhaps you can try some other faster maturing varities and skip the BW's all together! I'm happy to see returing customers to purchase my seedlings but they always mention BW, how slow it is but continue to try them again.

I've had much better luck with Cherokee Purple, Black Prince, Anna Russian, Henderson's Pink Ponderosa, Moskvich which all produced for me in 115-132 days from seed.

Since doing away with hybrids in my tomato patch I've yet to have a bad year or have come close to one of those total failure seasons. I think the bio-diversity has much to do with it. Last season was very wet and I only lost 4 plants total outof 300. The first 3 I simply forgot to bring them back into the prtection of the cold frame and the other plant slowly withered away with the excesssive moisture. Funny thing was the plant stock was created for rainy/wet/cold climates? Go Figure.

Good luck with your decisions and hope everyone is looking forward to this spring.

Rick

[gryffin]

Another vote for Cowlicks... Not that you needed it.

It was very productive for me as well as very healthy.

[JoeP]

Cowlicks was productive and earlier than other pinks for me last year. It was a terrible year for tomatoes (cold and wet) and most of them were bland. Even so, Cowlicks was productive. I grew Brandywine Sudduth too and was unimpressed. But since everyone raves about it I am tempted to try it again.

Stump of the World was the only pink PL that had any flavor. Barlow Jap, BW Sudduth, and Terhune all were just OK.

1884 Purple was the standout. It was a great tomato in a terrible year. I am growing it again if I can get seeds to germinate.