New to growing your own tomatoes? This is the forum to learn the successful techniques used by seasoned tomato growers. Questions are welcome, too.
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April 7, 2012 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Practical seed starting
Practical seed starting
There are many ideas and strategies that work for growing seedlings. The following works for me to produce healthy plants and is cost effective. Building a seed starting flat
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April 7, 2012 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Excellent instructions! Thanks for taking the time post your guide.
Jeff |
April 7, 2012 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
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Thanks Jeff,
That's a nice comment to come from a seasoned grower like yourself. Every seed I received from you germinated and the plants are doing very well Brad |
April 7, 2012 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
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The better half wishes I were so detail oriented and organized! LOL
Luckily, so far, I haven't needed to be....I just plant seeds and they grow. ~Martin
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April 7, 2012 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
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Martin,
Your lucky, I would do that too if I could. I am not organized by nature. it is out of necessity. I need a planting Gage with numbers to remember where I planted the last seed Brad |
April 7, 2012 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Brad,
Thank you for such a detailed guide. I'm not happy with my current set-up, and this looks better to me. I have a great deal of difficulty keeping track of things. j |
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The seed gauge is a clever idea, looks like you do an excellent job starting your seeds. ~Martin
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April 7, 2012 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
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Janzee,
Hard time remembering things? We must be from the same era. You and I have chatted about using spent mushroom compost in the past and I know you use it in your raised gardens. I want to use lots this year. If I plant my tomatoes into straight SMC will there be too much nitrogen? Will I get foliage at the loss of fruit? Thanks for the comment on the planting gauge, Martin. Brad |
April 7, 2012 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2011
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They had a list of what was in my mushroom compost,
and there was lots of peat, and gypsum, chicken manure, canola meal, straw, sugar beet and lime. I found it had all broken down completely, and no particles other than a chunk of peat, like a stem. I think I had just a little too much nitrogen, so I used a bunch of bone meal, thinking it would balance it out? Somewhat? It's good you're asking today! I guess I'd better start remembering what else I did so I can do it again. I didn't think that I had excessive foliage, and I had lots of fruit with no BER. My problem was the cold. So few fruit ripened on the vine before the annual late blight hit. Very short window of opportunity last year. OTOH, I did cut a bunch of branches and ripened indoors for a couple of months! Not nearly as good as summer-ripened, but better than store-bought! If I remember anything else, I'll let you know. |
April 7, 2012 | #10 | |
Tomatovillian™
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I am not too concerned about excess nitrogen, have lots of plants and will have more tomatoes than we can eat or give away or make salsa and sauce from. I think you were right about adding extra bonemeal for more phosphors. I also think that most of us think too much and get caught up in the small details (me) instead of focusing on why we garden, for the pure enjoyment of it. It sounds like my SMC is younger than yours, very course. I see gypsum, straw, chicken manure, horse manure in it. Perhaps the de-composition of the raw materials will take some of the excess nitrogen. I remember gardening on the west coast several year back. If I recall correctly, the tomatoes under plastic sometimes survived the late blight, is that right? OTOH, took me a minute to get it, I am catching on. Brad |
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April 7, 2012 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
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I am really hoping that plastic will hold off the late blight.
I'm buying lots of it this year! Along with lots of conduit and a pipe bender. |
April 8, 2012 | #12 |
Tomatovillian™
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Hi Brad,
I am glad to hear that you had good germination with my seeds. How many days (weeks) do you run your lights for 24 hours? Do you find they get leggy with that much light? I go 16 hours a day under lights until the temperatures at night are reliably above a few degrees above 0C. I then start to hard them off for a week. Once the week is up I then leave them out in the greenhouse where I use my little electric heater on low at night. Jeff |
April 8, 2012 | #13 |
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Hi Jeff,
This is my 1st year back at greenhouse growing after being on the road working for several years. I am on my 3rd set of plants under lights. Each set stayed 3 weeks or so, 24 hour light. I keep the light no more than an inch above the plants and move it up as they grew. They stay very short with short node intervals and bushed out, looked good. I think 16 hours a day would be fine for me, it is just that I have always use 24 hour light and it works for me (If it ain't broke, don't fix it my dad always used to say) At night during the winter, we turn the house heat down to 50 F or so at night. I think the extra heat on top of the plants is good for them. From the seeding flats under the lights, I transplanted to 16 oz cups at put them straight into the greenhouse, no lights. About 45 at night 60 to 100 day. I know that sounds brutal, but the majority of the plants done OK. 1 or 2 % of the plants were stressed. My Mortgage Lifters faired the worst, some came back some didn't. I bought that pack of seed somewhere in town here, had poor germination with them also. Not sure if it was the cold that got them or poor seed stock. 98% of the other plants showed no signs of stress and they are a problem for me as they are growing me out of room. Brad |
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