Tomatoville® Gardening Forums


Notices

A garden is only as good as the ground that it's planted in. Discussion forum for the many ways to improve the soil where we plant our gardens.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old May 16, 2012   #1
Mojave
Tomatovillian™
 
Mojave's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SF Bay area Z9a
Posts: 821
Default Clam shells

A couple of weeks ago I visited one of the local reservoirs and due to the low water level I was able to gather a good size bag of freshwater clam shells, I think they're clams anyway. I am moving soon and want to start preparing my new patch of ground for the Spring 2013 growing season. I'm hoping broken up clam shells will provide a natural source of slow release calcium.

Here's the problem. Uvas Reservoir is notorious for it's high levels of mercury (due to past mercury mining in the area) and there are warnings posted about pregnant women are not to eat the fish at all and everybody else severely restrict the amount of fish they eat from the reservoir. Does anyone know if shellfish can absorb mercury into their shells? I'd really hate to import some toxic heavy metal into my future garden.
__________________
Bill
_______________________________________________

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the universe.
-John Muir


Believe those who seek the Truth: Doubt those who find it.
-André Gide
Mojave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 16, 2012   #2
Lcottomsvcs
Tomatovillian™
 
Lcottomsvcs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 123
Default

Everything I have ever read about mercury bioaccumulation focused upon the levels present in the muscle tissue of the organism. I can't find anything about mercury content of shells.
__________________
Gardening is not a rational act.
Margaret Atwood
Lcottomsvcs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 16, 2012   #3
Mojave
Tomatovillian™
 
Mojave's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SF Bay area Z9a
Posts: 821
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcottomsvcs View Post
Everything I have ever read about mercury bioaccumulation focused upon the levels present in the muscle tissue of the organism. I can't find anything about mercury content of shells.
That's about all I could find too. I think I'll ask our County Cooperative Extension experts.

Thanks for the reply, I'll let you know what they tell me.
__________________
Bill
_______________________________________________

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the universe.
-John Muir


Believe those who seek the Truth: Doubt those who find it.
-André Gide
Mojave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 18, 2012   #4
Crandrew
Tomatovillian™
 
Crandrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: asdf
Posts: 1,202
Default

i would stay clear of it. I would rather spend a few bucks to buy the crab shells than risk some mercury in my system. But thats just me.
Crandrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 26, 2012   #5
chancethegardener
Tomatovillian™
 
chancethegardener's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: WV
Posts: 604
Default

Neptune's Harvest crab shells is a perfect product to add Ca to your soil.
chancethegardener is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 26, 2012   #6
Mojave
Tomatovillian™
 
Mojave's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SF Bay area Z9a
Posts: 821
Default

Well I got a non-answer from the Cooperative Extension. I thought it would be really cool using a free and native/natural element in my garden.

Oh well.
__________________
Bill
_______________________________________________

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the universe.
-John Muir


Believe those who seek the Truth: Doubt those who find it.
-André Gide
Mojave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 2, 2012   #7
dice
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: PNW
Posts: 4,743
Default

Try a University oceanography department. They would know.
http://ocean.stanford.edu/su/
Chris Francis maybe, if you can find his email address. It sounds
like something he would know off the top of his head, even though
his research area is marine rather than freshwater environments.
__________________
--
alias
dice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 30, 2012   #8
bower
Tomatovillian™
 
bower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 6,794
Default

Bill, although the levels of contaminant metals are lower in shell than in tissues, it seems likely that there would be some accumulation if there's a lot of mercury in the environment. Shells are made of calcium ion (Ca++) and several other metals including mercury have the same 2+ ionic value and therefore may well be assimilated in the shell building process. If I were you, I would not risk it in your garden.

I also have incorporated a lot of shell into my garden (mainly mussels), although as a source of calcium, I think it is really really slow release... maybe never! In fact archaeologists have traced some of the camp sites of native peoples who were living here hundreds and thousands of years ago, by the shell middens they left at those sites.... The shells may be more durable than plastic.
bower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 1, 2012   #9
Mojave
Tomatovillian™
 
Mojave's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SF Bay area Z9a
Posts: 821
Default

Thanks Bower. I'm beginning to think spending a few bucks on a sure thing is better than taking chances.

Oh well. was worth thinking about.
__________________
Bill
_______________________________________________

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the universe.
-John Muir


Believe those who seek the Truth: Doubt those who find it.
-André Gide
Mojave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 31, 2012   #10
cmarchan
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Antigonish, N.S, CAN
Posts: 8
Default

I agree that the amount of mercury in the shells would be absolutely minimal for the reasons stated above. I think the length of time it takes for the shells to break down depends on a number of factors such as annual rainfall accumulation, soil ph, rain ph, till vs no till and maybe more. Out soil ph is often near 4.0! Being close to the salt, my family has always added copious amounts of clam shells (we eat a lot of clams)into the garden every year. The garden was always bountiful. We usually crushed them a bit first with a hammer or whatever was close by. I know there was dissolution because of the smooth and rounded appearance of the shells. I also remember a lot of broken beer bottle glass in there too Now, If I wanted to correct a calcium deficiency I too would opt for a commercual product (in addition to the clam shells).

Last edited by cmarchan; July 31, 2012 at 11:02 PM.
cmarchan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:37 AM.


★ Tomatoville® is a registered trademark of Commerce Holdings, LLC ★ All Content ©2022 Commerce Holdings, LLC ★