Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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September 24, 2012 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Australia
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Intercropping with bush beans
Hi all. I have been wondering if growing a few bush beans around the base of tomatoes might be useful. Not crowding the tomatoes, just a few, with the view of the beans supplying the tomatoes with nitrogen. Has anyone tried this? If so how did it work? cheers
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September 24, 2012 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sunol, CA
Posts: 2,723
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Hi Max,
In my experience it is hard to get the bush beans growing soon enough to have a marked effect. |
September 24, 2012 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MA
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Max,
From what I've read... while beans fix some nitrogen, it isn't enough for the bean plants themselves, let alone producing for any neighboring plants. Gary |
September 25, 2012 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Northern Minnesota - zone 3
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I would go ahead and try it a few places. The bush bean roots are nowhere as deep as the tomatoes, so even if they don't give any benefit, they shouldn't do any harm either if your soil is fertile and has enough moisture. The beans might serve as a living mulch in hot dry climates. But they could also hinder air circulation in damp climates, there you might not want to grow things too close together.
I don't exactly intercrop them, but I set a row of tomatoes about 1/3 of the way in, in 4 foot wide raised beds, and grow a row of bush beans (or broccoli) along the other long edge of the bed. Everything does great.
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September 28, 2012 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Montreal
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I tried, and don't know if it was just the intense heat or what, but the beans were so so and in the end I ripped them out. I wasn't sure if they were interfering with the tomatoes, but I felt the toms did better after I took the beans out.
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September 28, 2012 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NorthWest
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I looked in both of my companion planting books and I did not see any pro's or con's for them being together.
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September 28, 2012 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
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I think there is a misunderstanding of how Nitrogen fixation works in legumes. The plants and their symbiotic bacteria that are actually doing the N fixation do not release Nitrogen into the soil since the legume plant uses all available N from the process during the growing season. N is tied up in the biomass of the plant and is only returned when it is decayed and returned to the soil.
You must also have the proper species of bacteria present for the host legume for root nodules to form, which is where the bacteria set up house. If you've never grown beans in that area and never purchased and applied an inoculant for beans before you may not have those species inhabiting the soil. These are root nodules formed by N fixing bacteria on pea roots |
September 28, 2012 | #8 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Oklahoma
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Glad I spotted that 2 years ago. Because I haven't seen that in any companion planting guide.
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