Anyone growing any mystery varieties for Spring 2013?

[COMPOSTER]

I have a beautiful plant grown from a package of Black Krim seeds. They are supposed to be RL but instead are PL. I wasn't going to grow it until I read this thread. Now I'm definately going to grow it and I can't wait to see what it produces.

Glenn

[greyghost]

Gary, I've read elsewhere that Texwine may have a potential of 25%
PL seedlings. Be interesting to see if you think the fruit are identical.

[Yak54]

Well I seem to be growing a mystery or two. Out of the 20 or so Nicky Crain seeds I planted, 6 of the seedlings are showing me potato leaves. My instinct says that there were some NON Nicky Crain seeds mixed up in my Nicky Crain seeds, but I thought I'd post this just in case other folks have had some strange anomaly with potato leaved plants showing up in any type of Oxheart seeds. What I find really interesting is that these mystery seedlings growing in the same cells as the Nicky Crain seedlings are developing "The Crud", just like the Nicky Crain seedlings are. Anyone have any feed back ?

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Yak54

Well I seem to be growing a mystery or two. Out of the 20 or so Nicky Crain seeds I planted, 6 of the seedlings are showing me potato leaves. My instinct says that there were some NON Nicky Crain seeds mixed up in my Nicky Crain seeds, but I thought I'd post this just in case other folks have had some strange anomaly with potato leaved plants showing up in any type of Oxheart seeds. What I find really interesting is that these mystery seedlings growing in the same cells as the Nicky Crain seedlings are developing "The Crud", just like the Nicky Crain seedlings are. Anyone have any feed back ?

I'm the one who coined the term crud, so when I see it being used I pay attention.

There are few PL heart varieties, to start with. And where were your seeds of Nicky from to get that many PL's b/c that's not normal at all.

For several years I monitored the heart varieties I was growing, to see how many did develop crud, and not all of them did.

And I can't remember seeing a PL heart variety develop crud.

And yes, if a cruddy variety is growing near a non cruddy one, then yes, it can spread.

I first asked Dr. Tom Zitter at Cornell what I was seeing b;c it didn't look like any leaf disease that I'd ever seen. He said that the current theory was that it was an aberrant form of Early Blight but they hadn't been able to prove that.

And I haven't hear anything more about it, to date, but then I haven't done any Googling either. Surely Dr. Zitter wouldn't have called it Crud so no sense uiing that word in a google search.

I also found that once the seedlings were set outside that the crud went away.

And yes I've grown Nicky Crain,for I'm a dedicated lover of almost all the heart varieties I've grown, which is many many different varieties,

Carolyn

[DeanRIowa]

Not tomatoes but I seeded a flat of peppers and lost my list of what I planted where , so every pepper is a surprise this season.

Dean

[patty_b]

Little bummed, about half of my PL's have a RL's in them. Just this morning I noticed Uncle Mark Bagby had one also. And a couple that I am not so surprised having an RL's.. Rebel Yell and Kardio Karpos, but with all of these the majority are PL's with only one or two RL's mixed in. And then a couple that I thought would have PL and didn't.. Spuda Yellow Strawberry for one. Just makes my grow out list longer........

[Tracydr]

I planted s bunch of seeds from a pack that was living in my seed box called " Golden Sunburst". No idea what they are, don't know where the seeds came from. The plants are extremely vigorous and have set more fruit than any if my other plants. Hoping they taste decent!

[b54red]

I got some regular leaf seedlings from my Big Cheef seeds this year and potted some of them up. While grafting plants I was more concerned with matching the stems than whether the plant had the true leaf type and ended up grafting one of the regular leaf plants. All of my potato leaf Big Cheef graft attempts failed and when I was planting my grafts out into the garden I wasn't paying real close attention and ended up setting out the regular leaf plant graft. I guess I'll just let it be since I didn't even notice it until a few days ago and it is already setting fruit so I'm just going to see what they are like when fully grown and I get to taste them.

Bill

[nathan125]

Bought a tomato plant called "striped german", it was in fact not striped, produced great 9oz tomatoes and rl plants. taste was very good and blemish free. I am now planting two "not striped german" plants, and they are the biggest plants i have factoring in when i started them. i am really excited about that.

[Yak54]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

I'm the one who coined the term crud, so when I see it being used I pay attention.

There are few PL heart varieties, to start with. And where were your seeds of Nicky from to get that many PL's b/c that's not normal at all.

For several years I monitored the heart varieties I was growing, to see how many did develop crud, and not all of them did.

And I can't remember seeing a PL heart variety develop crud.



And yes, if a cruddy variety is growing near a non cruddy one, then yes, it can spread.

I first asked Dr. Tom Zitter at Cornell what I was seeing b;c it didn't look like any leaf disease that I'd ever seen. He said that the current theory was that it was an aberrant form of Early Blight but they hadn't been able to prove that.

And I haven't hear anything more about it, to date, but then I haven't done any Googling either. Surely Dr. Zitter wouldn't have called it Crud so no sense uiing that word in a google search.

I also found that once the seedlings were set outside that the crud went away.

And yes I've grown Nicky Crain,for I'm a dedicated lover of almost all the heart varieties I've grown, which is many many different varieties,

Carolyn

Hi Carolyn--Thanks for your response. I learned something from it. That is there are PL Hearts. I did not know that. Thanks for the info. As to my source for the Nicky Crain seeds, they were graciously sent to me from a fellow Tomatovillian late last year. Perhaps there were some other seeds mixed in. And yes I know you are the one that coined the term "crud". I learned that from you 6 or 7 years ago. Never heard it described before that, but knew my oxheart plants kept gettin something in the seedling stage. So you put a good name to it. And I will transplant the seedlings out into individual cups tommorow, thereby seperating the crudlings from the rest, so it doesn't spread to the other seedlings. As for my mystery PL seedlings, I'll probably just throw them away, since I don't have extra room for more than my usual 15 plants.

Dan

[beatpoet]

One of my Japanese Black Trifele seedlings came up regular leaf instead of potato leaf. Not sure if I mis-labelled it or if its an anomaly of some sort. Guess I'll find out.

[Tormato]

Originally Posted by greyghost

Gary, I've read elsewhere that Texwine may have a potential of 25%
PL seedlings. Be interesting to see if you think the fruit are identical.

Greyghost,

First, I need to separate the PL/RL seedlings, which is waiting until they are big enough to handle it.

I just hope they get to the stage of having some flavor. Red beefsteaks generally do lousy (tastewise) in my garden, to the point of almost being tasteless. Red globes, hearts and cherries do well.

So, with the RL and PL Texwine, I just hope they are not identically bland.

Gary

[greyghost]

Hi, Gary

The seeds I got from you are doing great--the s-n-f love apple is really
a strong, heathy seedling. Also, the Aunt Ginny's Purple. I think I sent all
of mine to Tatiana the year she was looking for it--she had lost hers. I
thought I'd buy it back but not sure she listed it.

I think I told you the McMurray (Brandywine/NAR) pink were germinating.
Actually, I just got a couple of seedlings from the remainder of the pack
(the seeds were extremely tiny). Let me know if you'd like my saved
seeds for the pink.

Hope you like the Texwine-the Dixiewine is my husbands favorite (he
really prefers reds). I have the generic Brandywine/NAR cross and
I never see a difference in the fruits from generation to generation,
PL or RL; also no difference between the generic and Dixiewine.
I still can get a pl from my generic B/NAR. The person I got it from
had selected a red rl to grow-must of had a recessive gene for pl.

I meant to tell you about the squash---the Johnny's seeded to take
a couple of extra days to germinate than the Baker Creek seeds.

Darlene