Aunt Ginny's Purple & Prudens Purple!

I've grown PP in the past with very good results. The description of AGP sounds very similar to PP. I'm curious if anyone has grown both and would appreciate comments on AGP compared to PP. I'm thinking about AGP for next year.

Thanks

Ted

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by tedln

I've grown PP in the past with very good results. The description of AGP sounds very similar to PP. I'm curious if anyone has grown both and would appreciate comments on AGP compared to PP. I'm thinking about AGP for next year.

Thanks

Ted

Yes, I've grown both and as you know PP isn't purple, it's pink and PP is as well,

I think both are excellent varieties as grown by mein my zone 5 and can't pick one over the other.

An interesting side comment is that AGP was SSE listed for just one year and if BillMinkey hadn't seen it and got seeds, we wouldn't have it today.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...b=General_Info

I was an SSE member in 1991, joinrf in 1989, but didn't see that listing so good thing Bill did. I see Tania saw what I wrote somewhere since she was not an SSE member back then,,

Gracious I'm getting older by the minute.

Carolyn

[COMPOSTER]

I'm growing them both. I'm currently waiting for them to ripen. Both plants seem to be quite productive with PP being the larger of the 2 plants and with the larger tomatoes. Hopefully will be able to report on my opinion of the taste shortly.

Glenn

[Tormato]

Out of about 1,000 tomato varieties trialed, AGP ranks #1, and PP ranks #5, for me.

AGP has been more productive. AGP is a bit sweeter and a bit richer, PP is a bit softer.

The last two years, I've been seeing many blunt hearts showing up on my saved seed of plants having some blunt hearts mixed in with the normal beefsteaks.

I think next year I'll compare some other sources of AGP and PP with my saved seed.

Gary

[b54red]

I have grown them both and both are heavy producers but the PP is a bit larger usually and I prefer the taste and texture of Pruden's Purple. AGP has better foliage cover and is a better looking plant to me because PP can be quite spindly looking to have so many nice tomatoes on it. If you get much foliage disease and have to trim off bad leaves PP can look pretty bare afterwards. If you have the space then grow them both side by side and compare them.

Bill

[camochef]

I've grown them both for a few years running, but have eliminated both from my gardens about 4-5 years ago when I started reducing the amount of tomatoes that I was planting.
Its funny because Aunt Ginny's Purple produced much larger tomatoes for me than did Pruden's Purple. Some about twice the size of PP. This could have been because of garden location as the Aunt Ginny's were right next to the sand mound the first year I compared them and the PP was at the opposite end of the garden.
The next two years they were both in an entirely different garden and neither one was overly impressive in size or taste but PP was much superior in production.
I had both a R.L. and P.L. variety of P.P. and I thought the R.L. produced the better tasting tomatoes. All three have fallen out of favor with me in my gardens as I concentrate on what I find to be the best of the best as far as taste and production.
Good luck with yours and may you find both much more to your liking. I think southern gardeners find them more tasty than those of us in this area.
Enjoy!
Camo

[Dewayne mater]

Camo you tease! Other than your fabulous Cowlicks, I/we sure would love to see that narrowed list!

Dewayne mater

[camochef]

Dewayne mater,

I would never tease. I'm certain my list is posted in more than one place here this year, but to simplify things I'll post them again.

2 Cowlick's Brandywine -original P.L.
3 Cowlick's Brandywine- R.L.
1 Brandywine-Glick's
1 Brandywine-Sudduth's
1 Barlow Jap
1 Earl's Faux
1 Liz Birt-R. L.
1 Liz Birt-P.L.
1 Amazon Chocolate
1 Bear Creek
1 Dana's Dusky Rose x Brandywine-Cowlick
1 Dana's Dusky Rose
1 German Johnson-Benton Strain from seed from last years grafted plant
1 Purple Dog Creek
1 Terhune
1 Tarasenko6
1 German Johnson- Benton Strain, from original seed

The last two were destroyed by a severe thunderstorm and have been removed.
The only ripe tomatoes so far have been 7 Cowlick P.L. and 7 Cowlick R.L. as well as 2 Dana Dusky Rose. There are 2 ripe Amazon Chocolates on the plant that will be clipped tomorrow.
Enjoy!
Camo

Camo,

Terhune produced a couple of big, good tasting tomatoes for me while the varieties on both sides of it produced a lot of big, good tasting tomatoes. Has Turhune been very productive for you?

Ted

[camochef]

Originally Posted by tedln

Camo,

Terhune produced a couple of big, good tasting tomatoes for me while the varieties on both sides of it produced a lot of big, good tasting tomatoes. Has Turhune been very productive for you?

Ted

Ted,
It doesn't produce like Cowlick Brandywine does, but it does produce more than a couple tomatoes. They are always a decent size and are somewhat later than most of my large slicers. Well worth growing up here although they do lose blossoms once the heat sets in. Compared to my favorites I'd say it was a mid-range producer. Then too, nothing produces as well as Cowlick's Brandywine or German Johnson-Benton Strain.
It's on par with Purple Dog Creek, another that's still worth growing.
Wishing you better luck in the future with it. I remember the first year I grew Terhune...I wasn't overly impressed with it but decided to give it another try and I'm glad I did as it's been in my gardens ever since.
Enjoy!
Camo

[Dewayne mater]

Thanks Camo! I wasn't aware Cowlicks had PL and RL. I grow a few on your list and they are quite successful. First year with Barlow jap and it has been a great producer. One of the few with decent sized fruit still hanging, in spite of the doldrums of 100 plus daily (and probably more important, overnight lows of only about 83,84)

Question on the German Johnson you mention, is that RL or PL? Tatiana mentions both types.

I am keeping your list and plan to try a some I haven't yet and piggy back on all of your hard work. Thanks!

Dewayne Mater.

[camochef]

Originally Posted by Dewayne mater

Thanks Camo! I wasn't aware Cowlicks had PL and RL. I grow a few on your list and they are quite successful. First year with Barlow jap and it has been a great producer. One of the few with decent sized fruit still hanging, in spite of the doldrums of 100 plus daily (and probably more important, overnight lows of only about 83,84)

Question on the German Johnson you mention, is that RL or PL? Tatiana mentions both types.

I am keeping your list and plan to try a some I haven't yet and piggy back on all of your hard work. Thanks!

Dewayne Mater.

Dewayne,
All my Cowlick's have been potato leaf. I received seeds for a R.L. Cowlick's from Jon (Bama) some years ago when he had a R.L. plant show up in his gardens from seeds he had received from Prudens Purple, who got a large bag of Cowlick Seeds to distribute to others from myself.
I grew both for years now and while the P.L. is my preferred variety the R.L. is quite similar. This year my P.L. was a good week and a half ahead of the R.L. in ripening but that isn't always the case. I think the P.L. is also a slightly better producer.
Barlow Jap has been on my favorites list for quite a few years now when Jay First shared its seeds with Blue Ribbon Tomatoes and myself and its normally one of the first slicers to ripen...but not this year. Both the Cowlick's, DDR, and Amazon Chocolate have been ripening for 10 days now and Barlow Jap is still all green. Good size to them but green.

German Johnson-Benton Strain is potato leafed from seed grown on maxifort rootstock but my original plants were R.L. for quite a few years. Benton Strain is NOT the regular German Johnson available elsewhere. It was a family heirloom gifted to Dana's Parents years ago.
Enjoy!
Camo