Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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May 31, 2014 | #31 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
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Does that circle hoe not have a sharp edge? Does it work because you have a nice soft soil? It seems like it would just bounce off my hard clay.
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May 31, 2014 | #32 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: VA
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I ordered one of the stirrup hoes after reading this thread and I have to say WOW! I can't believe I haven't discovered this sooner. It made weeding my tilled garden so much easier. The one I got was on Amazon for about $20. Best 20 I've spent in a while.
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May 31, 2014 | #33 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Wyoming
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If the remark in another post about people saying that it was too hard to get the weed in the notch is about this tool, I wonder whether they knew how to use it. I never use the notch to cut off the weed at the surface, but the sharp notch pushed at an angle down under the weed will get the root lower than weed pulling by hand, and removes *much* more of the root than a hoe does. Another weeding tool I've liked at times when I lived where soil was hard was a hand axe - camping axe -- hatchet. Short handled, so you have to be on the ground, and functions about like a hoe, but with its sharper edge and heavier weight and comfortably shaped, sometimes rubber coated, handle, it gets the tough weeds out of hard soil with much less work, and leaves the soil nicely cultivated, too -- and the back side is good to break up stubborn clods of hard earth. |
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May 31, 2014 | #34 |
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NC
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Never will go back to a traditional hoe after using a scuffle hoe. The scuffle hoe cuts on the push and pull, and it can glide just right under the soil line. And because of the angled head, I can stand upright and weed. It is like night and day faster than a traditional hoe.
I got a no name scuffle hoe locally, and the head was made in Brazil. Some guy buys the heads directly from Brazil, and then he puts handles on them, and then sells them to the hardware stores and farm supplies. It's a carbon steel head, and a mill file will put a very good sharp edge on it. Paid $11 last year for it out the door. |
May 31, 2014 | #35 |
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Yup those are good, but give a scuffle hoe a try that cuts on the push and pull, and has the angled head where you can stand upright while weeding. If you like the stirrup hoe, then you will probably fall in love with the scuffle.
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May 31, 2014 | #36 |
Tomatovillian™
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The round hoe that I showed is very sharp on the bottom 1/2 of it. I sharpen it about twice a year with a round file. It acts a lot like a stirrup hoe, but it's shape makes it easy to go as deep or shallow as you want and with less pressure than you would need with the stirrup hoe.
I use both- I use the stirrup hoe where there is more room and the circle hoe in tight areas. The shape also helps you to avoid getting too close to the roots. I also use the circle hoe to make my watering trenches. It makes the perfect size trench when you use it at it's full depth. You could make this type of hoe if you can weld. It is just a piece of 3 or 4 inch pipe welded onto a spike that gets inserted into a standard handle. Very simply constructed and has held up to abuse...no cracks, no bending. I don't know how it would do in dry clay soil, but my soil can get pretty hard and it is the one I pick when conditions are like that. Lorri D Last edited by Lorri D; May 31, 2014 at 09:26 PM. |
May 31, 2014 | #37 |
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What's the difference between a scuffle hoe and a stirrup hoe?
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May 31, 2014 | #38 | |
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I was wondering the same thing. This is the one I ordered. http://www.amazon.com/Bond-LH022-Fib...=wiggle+weeder |
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June 1, 2014 | #39 | |
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Location: Oklahoma
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PS I have a question madddawg. How long are those butt roll ends? I am spending ~25 dollars for 750 feet. That works out to about 10 cents a plant per layer. I am experimenting with different numbers of layers depending on projected weed pressure. As for the rare weed that does poke through all that, this works great. ... I don't know what they call it but it has an end like this |V| on a long handle. And is very sharp. You stab the weed at the ground level or just slightly lower. Cuts it clean. Might be what DDSack and JLJ are talking about. You can walk down the rows and clear out anything tall enough to try and shade out your tomatoes very fast (not many make it through). Small weeds growing at ground level I simply don't worry about. They don't hurt anything. And between rows I mow with a lawn mower. Hopefully next year I can experiment with a chicken tractor instead of a lawn mower. The farmer I lease from wouldn't go for the idea this year. |V|
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June 1, 2014 | #40 |
Tomatovillian™
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I love my wolfgarten push pull weeder.
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June 1, 2014 | #41 | |
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http://www.roguehoe.com/scufflehoes/scufflehoes.html http://www.earthtoolsbcs.com/html/dw_hoes.html Stirrup or Hula hoes look like this. http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-5496-5-stirrup-hoe.aspx http://www.gardeners.com/buy/hula-ga...oe/38-926.html When my Brazilian made scuffle hoe wears out, I will buy a Rogue 60S scuffle hoe. The Rogue hoe heads are made from recycled agricultural disc blades. Last edited by snippits; June 2, 2014 at 01:36 AM. |
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June 1, 2014 | #42 | |
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