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Old August 3, 2014   #1
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Default bummer... Toledo water..

Things in the garden ready to be canned and frozen, are on hold too. Water unsafe to use in Toledo and surrounding area. We are able to get plenty drinking water for all of us and the pets too. Brought in well water from my sons house to heat and wash my hair in the kitchen sink. He has the well just for outside purposes...sure would like a 100 percent safe shower! It is humbling to see how I take the little things for granted.
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http://online.wsj.com/articles/in-to...ink-1406992024
That's horrible.

I suspect in the future we will be seeing this sort of thing more and more often as the population density increases.

Good ole Chemlawn.

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Old August 3, 2014   #3
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That's horrible.

I suspect in the future we will be seeing this sort of thing more and more often as the population density increases.

Good ole Chemlawn.

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Not Chemlawn in the article I read.

Just huge blooms of algae a the southern end of Lake Erie that were responsible for the toxins that came from them. And the algae blooms b'c it's warmer at the southern end of lake Erie, and due to fertilizer runoff and b'c the lake water there has been warmer this year.

Carolyn, who will now go watch a bit of tennis with a cold can of Diet Pepsi and is greatful for her 85 ft deep well in rock that gives her ice cold water, except of course when the power goes off and the well pump is dead, so to speak, which is why she keeps some bottled water around for emergencies.
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Not Chemlawn in the article I read.

Just huge blooms of algae a the southern end of Lake Erie that were responsible for the toxins that came from them. And the algae blooms b'c it's warmer at the southern end of lake Erie, and due to fertilizer runoff and b'c the lake water there has been warmer this year.

Carolyn, who will now go watch a bit of tennis with a cold can of Diet Pepsi and is greatful for her 85 ft deep well in rock that gives her ice cold water, except of course when the power goes off and the well pump is dead, so to speak, which is why she keeps some bottled water around for emergencies.
I read in the article the high concentrations of fertilizer runoff from lawns and farming had much to do with it.
Along with a few other things that cause these blooms.

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Carolyn, in your career, did you do any studies of Microcystin? In particular causing skin rash? I know they are saying if you have a weakened immune system or sensitive skin do no shower, but in my case, I have had a rash on first both forearms and then on front of both legs. It seems to be only under the skin, no blistering as poison ivy does. I have been wondering if I might be sun sensitive, becoming allergic to tomatoes or the vines, then this water issue appeared and has made me wonder if there is any chance the rash would come from the toxin, without having the other symptoms. If it would be from Microcystin, then we have had exposure longer than just these few days. Knowing your background, Carolyn what's your thoughts on affects of Microcystin? And I would be oh so happy to not worry that growing tomatoes could suddenly start causing me trouble.....I just do not think that could be the culprit! Patty
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I read in the article the high concentrations of fertilizer runoff from lawns and farming had much to do with it.
Along with a few other things that cause these blooms.

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And here's the article I read where it said run off from farm fertilizer and sewage plant runoff, which would be more of a concern to me, I think.


http://www.aol.com/article/2014/08/0...6pLid%3D510297

Worth, I wanted to ask if your new avatar of the peanut man meant you liked nuts, or were nuts?

Sorry, I just could help myself on that one.

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Carolyn, in your career, did you do any studies of Microcystin? In particular causing skin rash? I know they are saying if you have a weakened immune system or sensitive skin do no shower, but in my case, I have had a rash on first both forearms and then on front of both legs. It seems to be only under the skin, no blistering as poison ivy does. I have been wondering if I might be sun sensitive, becoming allergic to tomatoes or the vines, then this water issue appeared and has made me wonder if there is any chance the rash would come from the toxin, without having the other symptoms. If it would be from Microcystin, then we have had exposure longer than just these few days. Knowing your background, Carolyn what's your thoughts on affects of Microcystin? And I would be oh so happy to not worry that growing tomatoes could suddenly start causing me trouble.....I just do not think that could be the culprit! Patty
Patty I never worked with algae although I've read of red blooms of algae that make very serious toxins, so you can Google it yourself, or even better call the Toledo Health dept and ask them the same questions. They should be able to answer your questions I would think.

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And here's the article I read where it said run off from farm fertilizer and sewage plant runoff, which would be more of a concern to me, I think.


http://www.aol.com/article/2014/08/0...6pLid%3D510297

Worth, I wanted to ask if your new avatar of the peanut man meant you liked nuts, or were nuts?

Sorry, I just could help myself on that one.

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Carolyn I'll answer the question.
I like nuts and I am nut.
So I am nuts over nuts.
Why I picked it out is something that would be a story unto itself.
So here goes.
Our tomato friend from Belarus has an avatar with a Russian tomato doing about the same thing.
The peanut man is eerily like it.
We have a place called Barton Springs pool in Austin.
It is sping fed and is sometimes shut down due to runoff from yards.
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Patty,

Sorry to hear about your water problems.

Perhaps I can reassure you on the tomato skin reaction. I have a mix of interesting autoimmune diseases, and happen to have always had varying reactions to having tomato leaves touch my skin. Your description of a rash on first both forearms and then on front of both legs, non-blistering sounds like a mid-level year and has never lessened my love of growing some tomatoes for my BLTs.

If I get a rash, it's my own fault becasue I let the leaves touch me and I failed to go immediately to wash with soap and water. I keep a bar of soap by the patio hose spigot, because washing later does no good..the itching, burning and rash has already started.

When planting or staking and tying up, I make sure I put on a long sleeve shirt, no matter what the weather, then that goes in the washer immediately. Watering is done with a long reach attachment to the hose end. I guess after a lifetime of this it's just so automatic to avoid touching the leaves, it seems "normal" to me.

I'm just happy the years when I seemed to over react immediately.. a touch of a leaf felt like acid burning my skin, seems to be past for now. Those years did coincide with my other autoimmune issues being in a more active state and medications. Remember though, food allergy's and skin reactions in this case are completely different things.

Maybe experiment with avoiding touching the leaves and if you do, wash off before doing other things in the garden. Easier to do than a series of doctor appointments that might or might not be fruitful. Simple first has generally proved a better strategy..when I remember.
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