Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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December 16, 2014 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Allen Park, MI
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Grafted Ketchup 'N' Fries
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December 16, 2014 | #2 | |
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December 16, 2014 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Ontario
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There was nothing there! Boo hoo!
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December 16, 2014 | #4 |
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Location: Vancouver Island
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hmm if people are dumb enough to pay that then good for them I guess. My local greenhouse was selling individual bush bean plants in 4 inch pots for 1.99 each last year.... and "salad bowls" growing about 1/10th of a packet of mesclun seeds in them for 20 bucks each and they were selling well. there is no cure for dumbness in consumers but I don't think an ethical business should take them to the cleaners for 5 cents worth of mesclun and a plastic bowl. for heaven sake people, buy a packet of seeds! for 1.99 you can plant more mesclun than anyone could possibly use in one season. I want to give lessons...gardening for beginners... to prevent them from getting ripped off and give them the satisfaction of growing their own. It's in my retirement plan
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December 16, 2014 | #5 |
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Zone 6
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There's a problem with the link...go to the 'Territorial' site; click on the 'Vegetable Plant' tab; then look under 'Grafted Vegetables'...it's there.
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December 17, 2014 | #6 |
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ohio
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I don't begrudge anyone from making a profit on their product. To us it is an extreme profit because we can do this. People just have no clue what this stuff should cost or how easy (at least to us it is) it is to grow plants from seeds, not everyone can successfully graft a plant. I have had my share of failures.
Look at the cost of going out to eat. We took my MIL out for her birthday last week. There were 6 of us it cost 70.00 plus the tip and this wasn't expensive food. I think people just think gardening must be expensive since the cost of groceries and going out to eat is so expensive. It does make it easier to sell plants at a reasonable cost, though. So, Thank You Territorial Seed! I'll be happy to post these pictures out on my stand for the cost comparison. I bought my lettuce bowls last Fall off the clearance rack at TSC, but I'll still have to charge 10.00 for them. The CONTAINER is what adds so much cost to the finished product for me.
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December 17, 2014 | #7 |
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Here is the problem with these plants. Usually only one plant will do well. You either get great tomatoes and sad potatoes or beautiful potatoes and a nice green lush tomato plant with few maters. Unless they found the exact variety combination then i am skeptical.
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December 17, 2014 | #8 |
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Thanks TNPeppers. Now I know what you guys are talking about.
They don't know how to talk Brit! Would have been better to have said "blah, blah, blah. Blimey!" Linda |
December 17, 2014 | #9 |
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Location: Allen Park, MI
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I think the whole thing is a gimmick.
I don't think this will be a long term success.
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December 17, 2014 | #10 |
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December 18, 2014 | #11 |
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ohio
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anybody notice the size of the container?
A whopping 2 1/4" container. whoo whee. I hope the customers can find it wen they get it.
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December 18, 2014 | #12 |
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Location: 6a - NE Tennessee
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These novelties have been around for a few years now. They stick a potato set into the potting soil with the tomato plant sitting on top. The potato will still send out its own shoots and all that foliage seems to stifle the tomato. (Yes, I actually grew three of them. They were Pontiac Red potatoes and a Siberian variety of tomato)
So, with three of these "potato/tomato" thingies in a 30 gallon tub, I got a small harvest of tomatoes and only enough potatoes to fill a soup bowl. This concept is for the novelty of it and not for any production considerations. In my opinion, all of the seller's bragging is just false advertising. Now, based on my experience, that's how I see it.
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December 19, 2014 | #13 | |
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I heard an interview with the people making it available and 15 years went into making it, 5 overlapped as 2 teams were working on it, so 10 years. They had problems with the right combo of varieties. Finally liking the one offered. The cost of the research for this plant was through the roof. it will be years before they break even. Trials, patents, lab techs, tissue culture, propagation, legal fees, advertisement, etc. I talk to a raspberry breeder, and he says he's not sure if he will make any money off his patented cultivars. So far not even close to cost. The tomato breeders seem to make it look easy. They really do get product out quick at not too bad a cost. but it seems with other fruits, it's not the same. This breeder I talk to Pete Tallman said his first cultivar took 20 years to release. Offered just last year. Last edited by drew51; December 19, 2014 at 02:50 PM. |
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December 19, 2014 | #14 |
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I'm a very practical person.
Wouldn't it be easier to just go to the store and buy a bottle of ketchup and a sack of potatoes. I mean really. Worth |
December 19, 2014 | #15 | |
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