branches from leaves?

GreenFarmer · May 4, 2015

Hi TV,
I have this problem for about a week, branches coming out of leaves, just little suckers that sprout from the leaf itself. I am thinking, it must b e N overdose, but could not for the life of me find the reason for this in any plant solver that i read. Is anybody familiar with this? thank you in advance

JohnJones · May 4, 2015

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Originally Posted by GreenFarmer

Hi TV,
I have this problem for about a week, branches coming out of leaves, just little suckers that sprout from the leaf itself. I am thinking, it must b e N overdose, but could not for the life of me find the reason for this in any plant solver that i read. Is anybody familiar with this? thank you in advance

Could you post a photo? Not sure I understand exactly what you are describing.

Darren Abbey · May 4, 2015

What you seem to be describing is just how tomatoes grow, new branches form from the secondary bud just above the base of each stem. Some varieties do this more, others do it less. Some people prune them, others let them grow.

heirloomtomaguy · May 4, 2015

Yeah it sounds like you are describing "suckers". They will grow into secondary tomato stems in time

GreenFarmer · May 4, 2015

thank you JJ, DA and HT

no it is not the regular suckers that come out of the main stem. It is suckers that are growing from the leaf itself. I will resize pics and post them

GreenFarmer · May 4, 2015

there i think this should do...

Salsacharley · May 4, 2015

Wow! That's weird and cool. Does the plant have too much foliage because of this? It would be interesting to see if saved seeds can reproduce the same trait, although I don't know what purpose it would serve beyond curiosity.

Worth1 · May 4, 2015

Looks like something you would see growing on Bikini Atoll.

Worth

GreenFarmer · May 4, 2015

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Originally Posted by Salsacharley

Wow! That's weird and cool. Does the plant have too much foliage because of this? It would be interesting to see if saved seeds can reproduce the same trait, although I don't know what purpose it would serve beyond curiosity.

it is not genetic, it seems to be happening to most varieties i have like 10 running, maybe 1 was unaffected, and 2 varieties are not growing right at all, the others were doing fabulous until this, i attributed it with high N because i had some fruit abortion on one veriety along this thing. I am not sure though, hoping that someone can reassure me. it can also be another form of nutrient toxicity, as i run my reservoirs on recycle almost never change them, i challenge myself how long i can go without dumping. this grow has been 4 months so far, same res, i know i pushed it too far but plants are looking good. i am curious to know if some micro element toxicity can cause this, i don't know...

Fred Hempel · May 4, 2015

Over-pruning can cause branches from leaves. That is where I see it most on my plants. When I trim off all new branches and the tips of the main branch (usually to promote the more rapid development of a fruiting tress), shoots start forming from the leaves.

It is definitely a tomato/tobacco thing. Their cells are much more pluripotent than those of other plants.

GreenFarmer · May 4, 2015

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Originally Posted by Fred Hempel

Over-pruning can cause branches from leaves. That is where I see it most on my plants. When I trim off all new branches and the tips of the main branch (usually to promote the more rapid development of a fruiting tress), shoots start forming from the leaves.

It is definitely a tomato/tobacco thing. Their cells are much more pluripotent than those of other plants.

THATS some great info! thanks Fred! I have been cutting all suckers and have defoliated lower leaves to air the plants. there are 2 varieties that did not develop well and look weird and had this irregular growth first. it is a pain to trim all those little suckers sprouting everywhere, i still suspect something more, because it's like epidemic in my greenhouse, i don't know, but that's very interesting to watch for... that said, how would you recommend that a plant be thinned into a main single stem without stressing it out and causing this?

Fred Hempel · May 4, 2015

I recommend "no worries". This is very common with vigorously growing tomatoes in greenhouses with pruning.

Darren Abbey · May 4, 2015

cool!

May 4, 2015	#1
GreenFarmer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: under my greenhouse Posts: 40	branches from leaves? Hi TV, I have this problem for about a week, branches coming out of leaves, just little suckers that sprout from the leaf itself. I am thinking, it must b e N overdose, but could not for the life of me find the reason for this in any plant solver that i read. Is anybody familiar with this? thank you in advance

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Darren Abbey Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 586	What you seem to be describing is just how tomatoes grow, new branches form from the secondary bud just above the base of each stem. Some varieties do this more, others do it less. Some people prune them, others let them grow. __________________ http://the-biologist-is-in.blogspot.com

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heirloomtomaguy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: glendora ca Posts: 2,560	Yeah it sounds like you are describing "suckers". They will grow into secondary tomato stems in time __________________ “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."

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Darren Abbey Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 586	cool! __________________ http://the-biologist-is-in.blogspot.com

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GreenFarmer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: under my greenhouse Posts: 40	thank you JJ, DA and HT no it is not the regular suckers that come out of the main stem. It is suckers that are growing from the leaf itself. I will resize pics and post them

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Salsacharley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: New Mexico Posts: 2,052	Wow! That's weird and cool. Does the plant have too much foliage because of this? It would be interesting to see if saved seeds can reproduce the same trait, although I don't know what purpose it would serve beyond curiosity.

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Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Looks like something you would see growing on Bikini Atoll. Worth

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Fred Hempel Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sunol, CA Posts: 2,723	Over-pruning can cause branches from leaves. That is where I see it most on my plants. When I trim off all new branches and the tips of the main branch (usually to promote the more rapid development of a fruiting tress), shoots start forming from the leaves. It is definitely a tomato/tobacco thing. Their cells are much more pluripotent than those of other plants.