Cherokee Green

[jhp]

Check out this Cherokee Green I just picked.

It looks more orangey than I remember Cherokee Green from the past. It still feels firm enough that I don't think it's over ripe.

I'm making some bacon right now and was planning to eat it for lunch, but now wondering if I should hold off.

What do you all think of this tomato? Crossed seed?

Thanks,

Jen

[carolyn137]

I think they are just fine looking Cherokee Greens, which have a yellow epidermis so do get what most folks call an amber blush, which you call orangey.

Take a look at some other Cherokee Greens from Google Images:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...80.0HfIDGSe5G0

And note that with Google IMAGES photgraphy is not consistent across the board, so colors may look slightly different, and also good to put your mouse over a picture to confirm it is the variety you want to see, in this case Cherokee Green and one of my top GWR's.

Carolyn

[SharonRossy]

Looks gorgeous. I'm growing CG as well. I can only hope! I don't think any of mine are going to get that big, but I am anxious to taste it. My CG is not tall, maybe 5 ft. I'm assuming from what I researched that that is the average height?

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by SharonRossy

Looks gorgeous. I'm growing CG as well. I can only hope! I don't think any of mine are going to get that big, but I am anxious to taste it. My CG is not tall, maybe 5 ft. I'm assuming from what I researched that that is the average height?

I can't tell you the height of ANY of the thousands of varieties I grew since maybe 90% of them were grown by sprawling inground.

For sure some folks have grown them by staking or in cages, and then the question becomes, staking inground, cages inground?, what amendments were used and when and how much and what was the weather like the summer they were grown.

You can research something, no problem, but often it doesnt correspond to reality for an individual person and all the variables I mentioned above.

And it's still one of my top GWR's for both taste and production.

Carolyn

[jhp]

Thanks Carolyn. I've been growing Cherokee Green for a few years and this is the first time they've gotten this amber. Usually there is a blush on the blossom end, but not this dark. I'll chalk it up to the weather this year. Everything is kind of wonky in the garden.

Jen

[jhp]

Originally Posted by SharonRossy

Looks gorgeous. I'm growing CG as well. I can only hope! I don't think any of mine are going to get that big, but I am anxious to taste it. My CG is not tall, maybe 5 ft. I'm assuming from what I researched that that is the average height?

Sharon, it's one of my favorites. I make sure to grow it each year ever since the first time. I don't know about height, I think by the end of the growing season they are taller than 5 ft, staked. I don't really pay attention to that type of thing, my eyeballs gravitate right to the fruit! Should I go out with my measuring tape?

Here are some pics from years past. Yummy, yummy.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by jhp

Thanks Carolyn. I've been growing Cherokee Green for a few years and this is the first time they've gotten this amber. Usually there is a blush on the blossom end, but not this dark. I'll chalk it up to the weather this year. Everything is kind of wonky in the garden.

Jen

I've seen a pink blush at the blossom end with several of the GWR's I've grown, but I can't remember ever seeing it on CG.

Considering where this variety came from, that is Cherokee Chocolate from Cherokee Purple then Cherokee Green from Cherokee Chocolate, I find it very interesting,

And also saved some links. In the Cherokee Green one tania says that some folks were getting fruits of different colors, I don't remember that but CG has been stable for many many years now. Well I just remembered that one year I had four CG plants out for seed production and one of tham had allwhite fruits and the taste was terrible. I used to know the connection between white and green, as to the genetics involved, when Amy Goldman got a green one from the variety Dr. Carolyn, which was white.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Cherokee_Green

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...okee_Chocolate

Carolyn

[jhp]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

I've seen a pink blush at the blossom end with several of the GWR's I've grown, but I can't remember ever seeing it on CG.

Considering where this variety came from, that is Cherokee Chocolate from Cherokee Purple then Cherokee Green from Cherokee Chocolate, I find it very interesting,

And also saved some links. In the Cherokee Green one tania says that some folks were getting fruits of different colors, I don't remember that but CG has been stable for many many years now. Well I just remembered that one year I had four CG plants out for seed production and one of tham had allwhite fruits and the taste was terrible. I used to know the connection between white and green, as to the genetics involved, when Amy Goldman got a green one from the variety Dr. Carolyn, which was white.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Cherokee_Green

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...okee_Chocolate

Carolyn

Carolyn,

thanks for your time and sharing your knowledge on CG. Just to clarify, I meant an amber (yellowish to me) blush on the blossom end, as you mentioned in your first post, and pictured in my additional photos above. I've never seen pink on any of my Cherokee Greens. That would really get my attention.

Jen

[Hunt-Grow-Cook]

Cherokee Green has been my standard when it comes to large fruited GWR varieties. Although limited in the varites ive trialed so far, it is the clear winner in taste.

[SharonRossy]

Carolyn as always thanks. Jhp lol! No measuring tape. I'm so anxious to try it. I wasn't going to grow another gwr because green zebra always gave me BER and I just was never crazy about it. Then I tried Aunt Rubys German Green and again I just had trouble getting it right. But I couldn't resist this one especially knowing Carolyn had it as one of her favorite gwr. It's a healthy plant and I'm hoping soon to taste one. We've had a lousy summer for tomatoes. Too much rain too many temperature shifts and now it's August.

[SharonRossy]

I've finally been able to taste CG and I have to admit that I love it! For me it's amber coloring helps determine it's ripeness and I love the color of it inside. I was actually surprised at how dark the color gets. The flavor is fantastic, with a great tart, acidic taste, just like I love!
Sharon

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by SharonRossy

I've finally been able to taste CG and I have to admit that I love it! For me it's amber coloring helps determine it's ripeness and I love the color of it inside. I was actually surprised at how dark the color gets. The flavor is fantastic, with a great tart, acidic taste, just like I love!
Sharon

Cherokee Green is one of my top GWRipes, but I have never tasted anything tart or acidic about it, if I did I would never grow it again, and yes, I was one of the first to grow it way back when craig L found it and sent me seeds.

What I taste is a spicy sweetness, and actually the same with almost all the GWRipes I've grown, which are many.

Taste is personal and perceptual as oft I've posted and there's even a human genetic component involved.

So if different folks have different tastes of different varieties, why not, but I think that most do not see it as tart or acidic.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Cherokee_Green

And I don't know when Tania wrote that last bit about genetic instability but CG has been perfectly stable for many many years.

And if I could show you all the listings for CG in my 2015 SSE Yearbook I think you'd see that probably no one said acidic or tart.

Different strokes for different folks, as is oft said.

Carolyn

[SharonRossy]

Hi Carolyn, could be my growing conditions or maybe my tongue is burnt out from trying all my tomatos, lol! I have more ripening so I'll give them a bit more time to ripen and give it another taste test. In retrospect, tart and acidic were probably not the best description, probably you're right, it's the spiciness I'm experiencing, so I'll update later. Iin any event, I really enjoy it!