Cherokee Carbon and Genuwine ????

jillian · November 22, 2015

Has anyone grown either of these? They look awesome! Not alot of reviews on these as I guess they are fairly new. Anyone? Thanks!

Cherokee Carbon = Cherokee Purple x Carbon
Genuwine = Costoluto Genovese x Brandywine

Jillian

Gardeneer · November 22, 2015

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Originally Posted by jillian

Has anyone grown either of these? They look awesome! Not alot of reviews on these as I guess they are fairly new. Anyone? Thanks!

Cherokee Carbon = Cherokee Purple x Carbon
Genuwine = Costoluto Genovese x Brandywine

Jillian

Interesting crosses.
I have not even heard the names before. Lets hear reviews on them.

Gardeneer

jmsieglaff · November 22, 2015

Interesting, are these F1 or stabilized selection?

AlittleSalt · November 22, 2015

I saw Genuwine at Tomato growers http://www.tomatogrowers.com/GENUWIN...ductinfo/2542/

This is the first time I've heard of Cherokee Carbon. http://www.panamseed.com/plant_info....62006567032981

heirloomtomaguy · November 22, 2015

Both are F1 hybrids. Totally Tomatoes also has Cherokee Carbon https://www.totallytomato.com/dp.asp...bon+Hyb+Tomato

Gardeneer · November 22, 2015

If sold as plats , I will buy them. That would be a good way to promote them.

Gardeneer

travis · November 22, 2015

I grew Genuwine this past summer and was disappointed by the low yield, inconsistency of fruit size and shapes, high fungal disease susceptibility, poor flavor profile.

gssgarden · November 23, 2015

Travis, same here!! Small fruit as well.

Gemuwine sucked for me! Will not be back.

Greg

moon1234 · January 3, 2016

I got seed from Ball Seed as a pre-release trial (12 varieties actually). Cherokee Carbon is a huge winner in my book. I sold every good tomato (that was not eaten) from 40 plants. Chefs loved it. Imagine Cherokee purple, but no crack problems, vastly improved yield, larger fruit and very similar flavor and color profile.

Genuwine was ok as well. My yield was not as bad as portrayed above. Flavor was ok.

Big Brandy was also another big winner for us. It tastes similar to a brandywine. The size is improved, the fruit are not so prone to break until they are 100% ripe. The size is more uniform and these sell themselves. Chefs kept asking for more.

I think Ball Seed has some winners with their new Marriage line. I am not so sure you will find these as plants unless you mail order them. They are not really available through the larger seed houses, which is sort of disappointing.

Gardeneer · January 3, 2016

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Originally Posted by moon1234

I got seed from Ball Seed as a pre-release trial (12 varieties actually). Cherokee Carbon is a huge winner in my book. I sold every good tomato (that was not eaten) from 40 plants. Chefs loved it. Imagine Cherokee purple, but no crack problems, vastly improved yield, larger fruit and very similar flavor and color profile.

Genuwine was ok as well. My yield was not as bad as portrayed above. Flavor was ok.

Big Brandy was also another big winner for us. It tastes similar to a brandywine. The size is improved, the fruit are not so prone to break until they are 100% ripe. The size is more uniform and these sell themselves. Chefs kept asking for more.

I think Ball Seed has some winners with their new Marriage line. I am not so sure you will find these as plants unless you mail order them. They are not really available through the larger seed houses, which is sort of disappointing.

So Genuwine is out for me.
I would try CheroKarbon.

Gardeneer

November 22, 2015	#1
jillian Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: North Carolina Posts: 880	Cherokee Carbon and Genuwine ???? Has anyone grown either of these? They look awesome! Not alot of reviews on these as I guess they are fairly new. Anyone? Thanks! Cherokee Carbon = Cherokee Purple x Carbon Genuwine = Costoluto Genovese x Brandywine Jillian

November 22, 2015	#5
heirloomtomaguy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: glendora ca Posts: 2,560	Both are F1 hybrids. Totally Tomatoes also has Cherokee Carbon https://www.totallytomato.com/dp.asp...bon+Hyb+Tomato __________________ “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."

November 22, 2015	#3
jmsieglaff Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern WI Posts: 2,742	Interesting, are these F1 or stabilized selection?

November 22, 2015	#4
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	I saw Genuwine at Tomato growers http://www.tomatogrowers.com/GENUWIN...ductinfo/2542/ This is the first time I've heard of Cherokee Carbon. http://www.panamseed.com/plant_info....62006567032981

November 22, 2015	#6
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,919	If sold as plats , I will buy them. That would be a good way to promote them. Gardeneer

November 22, 2015	#7
travis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,984	I grew Genuwine this past summer and was disappointed by the low yield, inconsistency of fruit size and shapes, high fungal disease susceptibility, poor flavor profile.

November 23, 2015	#8
gssgarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,827	Travis, same here!! Small fruit as well. Gemuwine sucked for me! Will not be back. Greg

January 3, 2016	#9
moon1234 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 54	I got seed from Ball Seed as a pre-release trial (12 varieties actually). Cherokee Carbon is a huge winner in my book. I sold every good tomato (that was not eaten) from 40 plants. Chefs loved it. Imagine Cherokee purple, but no crack problems, vastly improved yield, larger fruit and very similar flavor and color profile. Genuwine was ok as well. My yield was not as bad as portrayed above. Flavor was ok. Big Brandy was also another big winner for us. It tastes similar to a brandywine. The size is improved, the fruit are not so prone to break until they are 100% ripe. The size is more uniform and these sell themselves. Chefs kept asking for more. I think Ball Seed has some winners with their new Marriage line. I am not so sure you will find these as plants unless you mail order them. They are not really available through the larger seed houses, which is sort of disappointing.