Cowlicks and Glicks

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by AKmark

TomatoDon, my Liam's came from Greyghost here at TV, like Carolyn said it is not a pure BW, but they taste great I noticed it in the new TGS catalog too.

I had notified Linda at TGS that what she wrote about it originally, was not correct, and I see now that she has corrected it from what I told her.

Gardeneer, the original Bradywine was not an Amish variety, although many say it was no proof for that at ALL, many searches for you tolook at and perhaps the best is at Victory seeds on the history of Brandywines.

Red brandywine is known to be of Amish origin so different in that it's red and also RL, not PL.

I think many agree that the Sudduth/Quisenberry one was THE first

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/B...e,_Sudduth%27s

And here's the general brandywine link

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Brandywine

And there are many more claims as to the origin of brandywine, Stokes wasone, but asnoted there'swas Red brandywine, Burpee was another one who claimed it was a pink Mikado and I say pink since there were also Mikados of different colors if you look at Tania's site.,

And there is a pink Mikado

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Mikado_Violettor

As far as I'm concerned there will almost never be conensus on the origin of Brandywine itself, but my opinion is that the first one is the one that Ben Quiseberry got from Doris Sudduth Hill.

Carolyn

[MarlynnMarcks]

I have heard that Big Beef is a hybrid that tastes like the original Brandywine. If anyone has grown it, is this true?
Is it as large?
Is it more prolific?

[AKmark]

I have to disagree, I do not think BB tastes like BW. I have grown both for several seasons, but that's just my two cents though, others may see it totally different.

[TomatoDon]

Big Beef tastes fine to me, but I don't compare it to BW. It's pretty large, not a monster. And it's prolific. I think it's one of the best hybrids for my area, the Mid-South, south of Memphis. I think Better Boy was the king for a while, then Big Beef, and now Goliath. Goliath has really gotten popular in my area and I'd never heard of one just a few years ago. All the back yard tomato barons in my area that grow for market plant Goliath, and they sell out every year.

[Gardeneer]

So then the variety BRANDYWINE tomato existed 100 years before (1880s) when Quinsenberry took a strain and named it Brandywine Sudduth (1980s). BOTH PL, PINK.
I am tend to believe that Mr. Quinsenberry new that there was a tomato by the name of Brandywine so he suffixed it with "Sudduth". Then what did Mrs. Sudduth call her tomato ? Probably she also called it Brandywine, it is logical to think that she have had call it Brandywine.
I am done . YMMV

Gardeneer

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

So then the variety BRANDYWINE tomato existed 100 years before (1880s) when Quinsenberry took a strain and named it Brandywine Sudduth (1980s). BOTH PL, PINK.
I am tend to believe that Mr. Quinsenberry new that there was a tomato by the name of Brandywine so he suffixed it with "Sudduth". Then what did Mrs. Sudduth call her tomato ? Probably she also called it Brandywine, it is logical to think that she have had call it Brandywine.
I am done . YMMV

Gardeneer

I am done as well and am leaving you with many links that you might want to read when you have time.

In addtion, you might want to go to your local library and check out Amy Goldman's tomato book to read what she said when she interviewed a member or members of the Hill family, as in Doris Sudduth Hill.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Bran..._AUIBigA&dpr=1

Carolyn