Earliest cherry ? - Page 2

Aerial · January 10, 2016

True, true... For my beloved, but impatient grandma, I only grow cherry tomatoes and small peppers for her.

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Originally Posted by Gardeneer

The earliness of cherry types are mostly due to small fruit size. For example, it will take an average beefsteak 45 days from flower -to- ripe, for cherry it will be like 32 days. The same is true with most early varieties ; they have small fruits : eg, Bloody Butcher, Stupice ...

bower · January 10, 2016

Peacevine is another cherry (red) which I've found to be quite early. In 2014 it was 107 days, compared to Moravsky Div at 109 days that year (a warm spring).
Kimberley is technically not a cherry (cherry = two locules only) although it is not necessarily bigger than a cherry. It is precocious flowering, so it can produce very early. But there may be gaps in production if it's very cold. In 2013 with an extra early start for my toms, Kimberley was 101 days to first ripe, 19 days earlier than Stupice, but there were not a huge lot of ripe Kimberleys in those 19 days, and the main flush of ripening was the same time as Stupice.
Jagodka is another one that is potentially very early but as I grew it in extremely cold year 2015, it was not the earliest in those conditions. It came in at 116 days, compared to Moravsky Div 115 days in these conditions. My earliest cherry was a Stupice X F2 at 106 days, and a Kimberley X F2 small fruit was 107 days, in really pretty cold conditions. Anything less than 120 days I considered to be early and cold tolerant! So also include Datlo at 117 days, pretty early nice cherry. And Bursztyn 118 days, small tangerine-yellow fruit.
When I grew Jagodka indoors one winter it ripened fruit at 88 days.

KarenO · January 10, 2016

Ambrosia gold was early for me last year as an OP gold option. Like Bower, I agree that a number of varieties mentioned in this thread are not cherries but are what I call small or saladette tomatoes. (Kimberly, glacier, bloody butcher etc.)
If determinates are an option and you want very early fruit, the earliest cherries I have grown are the tumbler types in baskets such as Tumbling Tom yellow, Tumbler F1, Gartenperle, Anmore treasures and dewdrop by Tatiana, 100's and thousands etc.

Aerial · January 11, 2016

Gribovsky, an early small tomato from Russia, listed at Double Helix Farm.

Quoting Tatiana..

"First fruit ripens very early, 50-60 days from transplant. Det., regular leaf compact plants, 2-3' tall, with high yield of blood-red round 1-3 oz fruits. Tolerates cool weather very well and sets fruit at colder temperatures than most other tomato varieties. Super sweet flavor when fully ripe..."

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Gribovsky

bower · January 11, 2016

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Originally Posted by Aerial

Gribovsky, an early small tomato from Russia, listed at Double Helix Farm.

Quoting Tatiana..

"First fruit ripens very early, 50-60 days from transplant. Det., regular leaf compact plants, 2-3' tall, with high yield of blood-red round 1-3 oz fruits. Tolerates cool weather very well and sets fruit at colder temperatures than most other tomato varieties. Super sweet flavor when fully ripe..."

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Gribovsky

That sounds good!

Greatgardens · January 12, 2016

If you use mini-dwarfs like Rejina, Red Robin, etc., and have a cold frame to let them grow in a protected environment, then you can have ripe cherries in May. I grow the dwarfs followed by Tumbler or the like and my "full production" starts in early June here in 5b. You will always get tomatoes earlier if you can grow them protected and/or use container varieties so that you can bring them inside in cold, frosty weather.
-GG

Labradors2 · January 12, 2016

That's a great idea GG's! I've been growing early compact cherries in 3 gall pots (starting in mid-Feb for ripe ones by mid-June) and hauling them in and out of the house, depending on the temps. I could go even smaller!!!

Linda

MileHighMike · January 14, 2016

1 - Nikolayev Yellow Cherry is extremely early. 36-38 DTM for me and I've grown it several years.
2 - Koralik is also very early. 42-44 DTM, also grown for several years.

Dutch · January 14, 2016

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Originally Posted by MileHighMike

1 - Nikolayev Yellow Cherry is extremely early. 36-38 DTM for me and I've grown it several years.
2 - Koralik is also very early. 42-44 DTM, also grown for several years.

Thanks for your input Mike!
Nikolayev Yellow Cherry has my attention and I look forward to growing.
Thanks again.
Dutch

nicollas · January 14, 2016

Yes Nikolayev Yellow Cherry seems interesting but tomatofest describes it as a 70 days tomato ?

bower · January 14, 2016

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Originally Posted by nicollas

Yes Nikolayev Yellow Cherry seems interesting but tomatofest describes it as a 70 days tomato ?

Tatiana's TBase offers them and it is described as 'super early' by her too!
Maybe tomatofest is growing an off type. It can happen....
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/N..._Yellow_Cherry

Labradors2 · January 14, 2016

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Originally Posted by MileHighMike

1 - Nikolayev Yellow Cherry is extremely early. 36-38 DTM for me and I've grown it several years.
2 - Koralik is also very early. 42-44 DTM, also grown for several years.

How is the taste on these two?

Linda

yardn_gardn · January 15, 2016

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Originally Posted by Gardeneer

My Hahms Gelbe Topftomato was th erarliest. But it is a micro dwarf.

Gardeneer

Gardeneer, how does the Hahms Gelbe Topftomato do as far flavor?

MileHighMike · January 15, 2016

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Originally Posted by Labradors2

How is the taste on these two?

Linda

I think both Nikolayev Yellow Cherry and Koralik taste very good (and not just for early tomatoes). Both are on the acidic/tart side and are full of flavor. They produce continuously for me from late June until frost (late September or early October) with 3-4 peaks typical of determinate varieties. The flavor of both holds up all season long, even against the mid to late season varieties.

Nicollas asked about the DTM. I originally got both seeds from Tomatofest 5-6 years ago and have saved my own seeds since then. Nikolayev has been my earliest variety every single year and Koralik has been second every year. I have grown as many as 125 varieties in a single year. Both of these cherries are extremely early producers that taste very good.

I start my cherry seedlings eight weeks before transplant and they can both be slow to germinate, especially the Nikolayev. Be patient with them.

jmsieglaff · January 15, 2016

I haven't grown it yet, but have ordered seeds for Rancho Solito to grow some year in the future. (http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Rancho_Solito). It sounds like a very early tomato. With Stupice as 1 parent, that makes sense. I see J&L is not selling it this year and are reselecting as they had issues with concentric cracking in wet weather last year. From J&L's website: The flavor is quite robust, with a hint of its wild heritage. (The other parent is a wild tomato).

January 10, 2016	#17
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	Peacevine is another cherry (red) which I've found to be quite early. In 2014 it was 107 days, compared to Moravsky Div at 109 days that year (a warm spring). Kimberley is technically not a cherry (cherry = two locules only) although it is not necessarily bigger than a cherry. It is precocious flowering, so it can produce very early. But there may be gaps in production if it's very cold. In 2013 with an extra early start for my toms, Kimberley was 101 days to first ripe, 19 days earlier than Stupice, but there were not a huge lot of ripe Kimberleys in those 19 days, and the main flush of ripening was the same time as Stupice. Jagodka is another one that is potentially very early but as I grew it in extremely cold year 2015, it was not the earliest in those conditions. It came in at 116 days, compared to Moravsky Div 115 days in these conditions. My earliest cherry was a Stupice X F2 at 106 days, and a Kimberley X F2 small fruit was 107 days, in really pretty cold conditions. Anything less than 120 days I considered to be early and cold tolerant! So also include Datlo at 117 days, pretty early nice cherry. And Bursztyn 118 days, small tangerine-yellow fruit. When I grew Jagodka indoors one winter it ripened fruit at 88 days.

January 10, 2016	#18
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	Ambrosia gold was early for me last year as an OP gold option. Like Bower, I agree that a number of varieties mentioned in this thread are not cherries but are what I call small or saladette tomatoes. (Kimberly, glacier, bloody butcher etc.) If determinates are an option and you want very early fruit, the earliest cherries I have grown are the tumbler types in baskets such as Tumbling Tom yellow, Tumbler F1, Gartenperle, Anmore treasures and dewdrop by Tatiana, 100's and thousands etc.

January 11, 2016	#19
Aerial Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: CA Posts: 410	Gribovsky, an early small tomato from Russia, listed at Double Helix Farm. Quoting Tatiana.. "First fruit ripens very early, 50-60 days from transplant. Det., regular leaf compact plants, 2-3' tall, with high yield of blood-red round 1-3 oz fruits. Tolerates cool weather very well and sets fruit at colder temperatures than most other tomato varieties. Super sweet flavor when fully ripe..." http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Gribovsky

January 12, 2016	#21
Greatgardens Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,124	If you use mini-dwarfs like Rejina, Red Robin, etc., and have a cold frame to let them grow in a protected environment, then you can have ripe cherries in May. I grow the dwarfs followed by Tumbler or the like and my "full production" starts in early June here in 5b. You will always get tomatoes earlier if you can grow them protected and/or use container varieties so that you can bring them inside in cold, frosty weather. -GG

January 12, 2016	#22
Labradors2 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,896	That's a great idea GG's! I've been growing early compact cherries in 3 gall pots (starting in mid-Feb for ripe ones by mid-June) and hauling them in and out of the house, depending on the temps. I could go even smaller!!! Linda

January 14, 2016	#23
MileHighMike Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 18	1 - Nikolayev Yellow Cherry is extremely early. 36-38 DTM for me and I've grown it several years. 2 - Koralik is also very early. 42-44 DTM, also grown for several years.

January 14, 2016	#25
nicollas Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: France Posts: 142	Yes Nikolayev Yellow Cherry seems interesting but tomatofest describes it as a 70 days tomato ?

January 15, 2016	#30
jmsieglaff Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern WI Posts: 2,742	I haven't grown it yet, but have ordered seeds for Rancho Solito to grow some year in the future. (http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Rancho_Solito). It sounds like a very early tomato. With Stupice as 1 parent, that makes sense. I see J&L is not selling it this year and are reselecting as they had issues with concentric cracking in wet weather last year. From J&L's website: The flavor is quite robust, with a hint of its wild heritage. (The other parent is a wild tomato).