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Old August 14, 2016   #31
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Latter Day Saints to be exact.
During the persecution in the 1800's the term ((Jack Mormon)) was a reference to Non LDS folks sympathetic to these fine people in Jackson county Mo.
As this went away in the 20th century the term became to describe Latter Day Saints that didn't adhere completely to the doctrine.
Such as drinking, smoking use of caffeine and so on.

I dont consider this breaking the rules here it is simply comment on the history.
I have read a lot of it too not just the LDS but everything.

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Old August 14, 2016   #32
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Here is my blow out of Violette de Bordeaux. Got 2 figs like this one. I watered too much while we were humid.
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Old August 14, 2016   #33
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My brother has two large fig trees in the back yard. He says that he's never gotten a ripe fig. The birds clean him out (and probably rats too, truth be known).
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Old August 14, 2016   #34
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We have one neighbor with a garden. She is an older lady who said she grew up gardening as many in this area did. I'd say gardening is more common here since it is a rural area.
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Old August 15, 2016   #35
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I am more of a rock than an island.
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Old August 15, 2016   #36
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Not a great pic but it shows a little of what I had to do to keep rats out of my figs. They came for the first time ever this year. I used bits of old sheer curtains to wrap each fig or several if they were close together enough. With a clothes pin or tomato clip keeping the cloth tight to the branch the rats were not able to find the figs. Worked well.
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Nice idea! I mentioned to my partner that the critters had started picking unripe figs, so we now have a pvc cage around the small fig tree, and are still discussing how to cover it!
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Old August 15, 2016   #37
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Use another piece of chicken wire. Make it like a large square bottle cap. Large enough to roll the end then bend them to the cap shape. Now get a piece nylon rope. Just a little thicker than a drapery cord to lash in and out the sides to the top. I heated the end over a flame on the stove. You don't have to sew it entirely but half. I got fancy with needle nose plyers to roll the ends after they were cut so they did not snag me.

If the chicken wire holes line up I have use 40 in. bamboo sticks and skewer the bamboo back and forth. The thin green ones are cheap and work great. Easy to remove & then to put back in place.
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Old August 15, 2016   #38
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When you look around. Do any of your neighbors have veggie & fruit gardens?
Interesting thread. I'm in a crowded suburban condo townhouse community. I do have a few neighbors with veggie gardens. We own our unit, but many of the people here are renters. A lot of the renters are students, and a lot are low-income families. One unit had a really impressive pepper garden last summer... but I assume they were renters and they moved away, because now there's nothing.

I've got a neighbor 2 doors down who I'd love to chat about tomatoes, because he has a few compact plants with tons of big tomatoes on them, from what I can see through the fence. I rarely see the guy, though. Maybe I should leave him a friendly note with my email address, haha.

There's another unit with a yard about my size (tiny), and they're growing corn! I can see it growing higher than the fence. I don't know what else they have. (Actually, 2-doors-down neighbor did corn last year, too.)

...so I guess you could say I'm an island in a cluster of tiny islands.
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Old August 15, 2016   #39
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Is growing ganja legal in Germany? Interesting if so. Germany, as a country, is sooooo clean (litter-ally speaking) - I like that. not trashy - like lots of the states. can't stand some of these filthy pigs over here littering the scene....
In States of Washington and Oregon, you can grow your own weed (there is a limit). for personal use. There are stores that sell weed. I am not into it but I know people who do it.

On the subject : Where I garden ( a subdivision ) You cannot garden (vegetable ) in your front yard. So there is no way to know who is gardening but I suspect maybe a small percentage who might have a sunny location in their backyard, as the area in full of towering Western Cedar trees. Add to that not-so-friendly gardening weather in PNW.
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I live on a farm to market road. Driveways into properties and mailboxes are separated by at least one quarter mile. Most properties are surrounded by trees so it's almost impossible to see what the neighbors are doing. I think I am the only vegetable gardener on our road. I did notice a lady placed a big cooler by her mailbox with a sign saying "peaches and blueberries" on it. The cooler had lots of fruit in it along with an honor money container. I bought some and they were great. They have only owned the property for about three years so I was wondering how they were able to produce so many peaches and berries in such a short time. I stopped and asked the lady about her fruit. The peach trees had trunks about ten inches thick. She had about 1/4 acre of mature blue berry bushes. Apparently, the previous owners had grown both for many years, but didn't tend them as they got older.

Some folks built one of those 10,000 sq foot mcmansions down the highway from us. I kept thinking as I drove past during construction about how happy I am with my much smaller house. I noticed the other day, they have placed about forty giant containers next to the four car garage and hooked water up to each container. The containers are perfectly aligned with gravel paths separating each. They also installed a good, tall animal fence around the garden. Now I can't wait to see what they plant. I hope they are not disappointed with their "all container" garden. Some things simply grow better in the soil than in containers. I do both. Some of my tomatoes grow great in containers. My peppers grow much better in the soil. I hate to see folks give up on something like a garden just because their first attempt didn't quite work out.

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Old August 17, 2016   #41
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I live in a farming area where many of the farms have been split up into house lots. Zoned for 5 acre lots minimum, but many, if not most, are larger. Many of my neighbors grow flowers and at least a few vegetables and herbs with a few fruit trees. Our vegetable garden is at the corner of our lot, close to two streets, so we get a lot of comments on it, when people find out where we live.
There are good reasons for planting flowers and herbs among the vegetables- warding off insect pests being a major one. Besides, the flowers make the whole garden prettier!

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Old August 17, 2016   #42
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People might be better off if they are the only ones growing around them.
This way they can have better control over pests and the plague.
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This worked well for me for about three years. The critters now have found my spot. SWD fruit fly, white fly, plum curcullio all shown up in the last couple of years.
The yellowjackets, and fruit flies are so eating the last of my blackberries this year. I'm foregoing the last 1000 berries as bait for the new killing fields called my blackberry patch. I'm throwing everything at them.
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