Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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September 7, 2016 | #1 |
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Bumpy Tomatoes
If you look at post #5 here:
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=20279 You will see pics of Franchi Red Pear tomatoes. There is also somebody who has an avatar of tomatoes that have them deep, bumpy ridges. Can somebody tell me, what do you call those type of shaped tomatoes? I know bumpy is not the proper name, but I don't know what else to call them. Also, does anybody happen to know the name of other tomatoes that make that bumpy look? They really pretty and different to look at. Think I need to grow a couple myself. |
September 7, 2016 | #2 |
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Well, I sure wouldn't call it pear-shaped.
Pleated? |
September 7, 2016 | #3 |
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First, many changes can happen from a very green tomato, like in the link, post #5, to the ripened and mature fruit.
Some have been called "pleated piriform" shaped. If you go to the link below, you'll see the mature fruit and description. I'd most likely call as they did. http://www.growitalian.com/products/...-Red-Pear.html BESTSELLER! Franchi's Red Pear tomato is an old North Italian variety specially selected by Franchi Sementi. It is a red, pear-shaped beefsteak. An outstanding producer of huge (as in 8-18 ounce) very tasty fruit. Great fresh eating. Early for such a large plant (70-75 days). This is not the small pear shaped tomato called red pear by U.S. seed companies. Pear shaped with vertical ribs - a must try. Really meaty containing few seeds. Indeterminate. 1 gram packet, approximately 250 seeds. |
September 7, 2016 | #4 |
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http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/F...b=General_Info
You can Google lots more pictures. They are called piriform,aka pear shaped,and are the opposite of hearts being large at the bottom and narrow at the top. There are several threads here about piriforms,just enter something like Liguria,etc,well let me fetch Tania's picture for that one where she probablylists others. http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Liguria Carolyn, who has grown several of them and really likes them for fresh eating.
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September 7, 2016 | #5 |
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While I was fetching links you had posted imp,all to the good.
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September 7, 2016 | #6 |
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Sometimes tomatoes with deep, bumpy ridges are said to be "fluted"- and they're not always pear-shaped.
Here are some pictures: https://www.google.com/search?q=flut...HbEADxIQsAQIGw |
September 7, 2016 | #7 |
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I like fluted/ribbed/pleated tomatoes of all shapes. The piriform ones are interesting to me.
I am growing a version of Costoluto.
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September 8, 2016 | #9 |
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Canestrino di Lucca.
Just ordered seeds for it, very pretty in the photo - green shoulders and all |
September 8, 2016 | #10 |
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Have you ever seen/eaten real pear varieties such as
Bartlett Bosc Comice and so many more? Big at the bottom and smaller at the top. Are all piriforms pleated? Nope, and someone just listed some pleated ones here,that are not piriforms. Carolyn, remembering all the different pear varieties that the Shakers had planted before my grandfather bought the farm.Juices running down the chin,superb taste,not like so many pear varieties that have been bred more recently to withstand shipping and can remain rock hard for over a week, and sometimes more before being edible.Same for all our peach and plum orchards.
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September 8, 2016 | #11 |
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Ah, Carolyn, the pears I grow all have necks, but you sent me to a book on pears
where I found that pears have six different shapes. Two of the shapes have necks: "Pyriform" and "Callabasse". But there are also "Round" "Oval" and "Conical", plus Asian pears. So practically any tomato could be called pear-shaped. |
September 8, 2016 | #12 |
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Thank you folks for the terminology lessons and the suggestions and the links. Definitely going to be doing some shopping and growing. No where down here at stores or markets do folks sell anything that look like these type of tomatoes.
With never having seen one in person, no wonder I didn't know what they are called. I think it is going to be a very interesting growing year next year learning to grow some new varieties and forms of tomatoes. |
September 8, 2016 | #13 |
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I'm growing Fleur de Reagir, seeds from the swap, that is fluted. Some tomatoes are more fluted than others.
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September 8, 2016 | #14 |
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Tomato naming , when referred to another fruits or thing is just symbolic and conventional.
So a tomato having "heart" in the name is not truly heart shape. Nor do those having pear, cherry, grape, lemon, etc . There is really no systematic or scientific standards to name tomatoes and peppers.
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