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July 20, 2016 | #1 |
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mystery Italian tomato plants
These young plants were started from seeds a co-worker gave me. She doesn't know what the name of the tomato is. From what she described, it's large as a grapefruit, red, pleated or very ribbed, irregular shape, and indeterminate vine. She said they got the seeds from a relative in Italy.
I'm hoping the growing season in NW PA is long enough to at least get a few tomatoes off of these. I didn't receive the seeds until mid-May. I gave some of these plants to my co-worker, but she says her other tomatoes are taking over the garden. Last edited by MadCow333; July 20, 2016 at 04:02 PM. |
July 20, 2016 | #2 |
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The description sounds interesting and the plant looks healthy, I hope you get to taste a few and save seeds.
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July 20, 2016 | #3 |
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it's large as a grapefruit, red, pleated or very ribbed, irregular shape, and indeterminate vine. She said they got the seeds from a relative in Italy.
****** It sounds like one of the many piriform ( pear shaped) varieties that are grown in Italy,or used to be grown, and many still are. So when the fruits form,see if they look anything like the following http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Liguria And note the other piriforms mentioned as well. You'll want to name it yourself, so see if your coworker can give you any information at all on where she or he got it from in Italy,names,places,etc.And if you want me to I can help you name it as I have for other folks in the same situation. When a new unnamed variety appears there are those who will ask for seeds,either here in your thread or by PMingy ou,which is very poor form,trust me,been there,so just ignore any such requests. Whenyou save enough seeds perhaps you'd like to make a seed offer in the TRADE Seed Subforum,where no trades are really needed at all,many just offers alone. That's what Tam did when she got an unnamed one from Italy,and there's a kind of funny story,here at Tville what we went through in naming it. http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/G...as_Italian_Red So please keep us updated on this new Italian variety. Carolyn
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July 20, 2016 | #4 |
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Thanks, Carolyn! Piriform might fit the bill, because whenever I steered questions toward beefsteak appearance, my coworker insisted that they were different, big, and lumpy or sometimes odd-shaped.
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July 20, 2016 | #5 |
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I have extra plants, and I'm in western PA, if anyone local wants a plant.
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July 21, 2016 | #6 |
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Sounds interesting! Please keep us posted with updates and pictures of fruit and cut fruit once you have some. Good luck!
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August 8, 2016 | #7 |
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Might be piriform. :-) We've had a long dry hot spell, no rain, temps in high 80s to low 90s. I had a substitute tending my plants for about 10 days there and things didn't get watered enough. Here are some pics of the Italian plants, which are holding up well, considering the problems I'm having with some others.
(rotate that clockwise in your mind, because Photobucket won't let me rotate it, lol) (rotate that ccw) blossom, out of focus Last edited by MadCow333; August 9, 2016 at 07:52 PM. |
August 8, 2016 | #8 |
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Definitely not piriform based on that picture. The piriform tomatoes are all fatter at the bottom, much like a sack shape. You seem to have a classic heart shape there.
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August 8, 2016 | #9 |
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Okay. Thanks for the info! :-) Now I have to Google heart-shape tomato varieties. LOL
eta: That type generally fits with the type of vines these are: Droopy leaves, non-branching. These vines look a lot like the LaRoma II plants I grew last year. I kept thinking as these vines matured a bit "They look like those LaRomas I grew last year. Last edited by MadCow333; August 8, 2016 at 06:52 PM. |
August 9, 2016 | #10 |
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Last edited by MadCow333; August 9, 2016 at 07:51 PM. |
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I'll see if I kept those links from here at Tville in my faves,when I have time. Sitting next to my computer is a letter with seeds where all the person knows is that the man he got them from just said they were referred to as that old Russian one. Carolyn
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August 18, 2016 | #12 |
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8-18-16 BER and blemished tomatoes seem par for the course this year. The weather has literally cycled through extremes, starting with snow in May. Then directly to 90s with no rain for weeks. Then t-storms, high winds and hail pummeled my plants for 2.5 days. Crazy. Last edited by MadCow333; August 18, 2016 at 08:28 PM. |
August 18, 2016 | #13 |
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A weekly feeding of a tablespoon of Calcium Nitrate when we have heavy rains will cure most of that and Epsom Salt will also give it a boost.
Try it and report the results and I bet you'll be surprised even in bad growing conditions. |
September 19, 2016 | #14 |
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9/16/16 update
I don't know how they taste. I haven't gotten any ripe enough yet. My co-worker that gave me these seeds had a couple of ripe 'maters off the 2 surviving plants that I gave her, but her husband harvested the seeds and threw the rest of the tomato out, leaving nothing for a taste test. He said they "looked like they're supposed to." lol
Still having problems with the torrential storms beating the carp out of the plants, and leaf spot, and if plants get knocked down by the storm, any foliage that contacted the ground tends to mildew. Buy hey, at least the tornadoes skipped over us, so far. |
September 19, 2016 | #15 |
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