ISPL Heart Shaped???

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

I have offered RL and PL IS in recent seed offers and those who have grown both in the same season, and have reported back on the Fall results thread I put up have said they thought the two were about the same except for leaf form.

I could check that if necessary by going back to the reports but I'd rather not based on other priorities.

As for a heart form for IS, IMO it's not a given at this point. Some have said,and shown pictures,of a blunt heart.

A small group was set up to exchange seeds of possible hearts that I think were JLJ and Marsha and I can't remember the third.

But it was Marina in Russia who got the heartiest ones,and I know I asked hera bout that and seeds,she didn't answer for a long time,can't remember,but I got no seeds from her,that I know.

IS has mimiced Cherokee Purple in all ways,that is, CP has PL variants and also a heart form saw it, not so sure, so why not IS having a PL form as well as a true stable heart ready to be distributed widely as well,just not yet as I see it.

Carolyn, no furry friends left in my home to be mom to,so I've become mom to some of my more successful tomato introductions,of which Indian Stripe is one.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...b=General_Info

Just updating here, and I think many of you should know that I've been offline for over a week,see the thread in the off topic Forum that Mischka put up.

Marina had sent me seeds on Nov17th and they got here just last Saturday,she sent lots of seeds for IS Heart and said she had saved seeds from several and grown it out twice and was confident the heart version was stable,unless someone grows it out and has either a mutation or X pollination in their own garden.

She sent me 11 other new ones but is switching from tomatoes to melons and I gave her some hints on where to get the largest number.

I also got seeds this past Monday from Charline in France,the two family ones she promised and several more.

I've been thru H with Verizon and finally only did someone come and fix it in 5 min and I'm hoping it holds.

The seed offer will be very very late this year,call it 2015/2016, and I have so much work yet to do to get all the descriptions I can from my 7 seed producers,especially since the seeds that were produced this past summer I call it my international offer, most can't be found at Tanias,or via Google,etc.

And few have seen the seed produced in the summer of 2015 either.I did send some seeds to a few commercial vendors for them to trial,as I do every year. Good varieties don't last unless grown out and shared, not just shared between individuals,at least that's my opinion. And since 4 of my seed producers are SSE listed members they will have still a wider distribution.

So let's be glad that at last I got the IS Heart seeds back from Marina.

Carolyn

[carolyn137]

OK, found the other thread I was referring to re JLJ and IS Heart.

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=42622

Carolyn

[KarenO]

Interested to know Which commercial seed vendors?
KarenO

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by KarenO

Interested to know Which commercial seed vendors?
KarenO

Karen, initially going back to the early 90's I was sending seeds of varieties I liked a lot as did my back then 4 seed producers to several places for trial ,places where I knew the owners and had for several years and trusted them.

They would include these,to whom I still do that..

Glenn Drowns at Sandhill Preservation
Mike Dunton at Victory Seeds
Linda Sapp at TGS
Jeff Casey in Canada when he has room
Tania, who has the pick of my seed offer ones
Several of my SSE friends, who now list my varieties in the Yearbook since my choice,I'm no longer an SSE listed member

Breeders I know in exchange for varieties they might want that I have

I used to send to Johnny's but everything changed when they got a new Garden Manager

I used to send to Pinetree as well, but now that they have new owners,still family,I might do it again.

Also to SESE and someone from there visited me at home this past summer and encouraged me to please do that again.

And there are several commercial vendors who participate in my seed offers, get sample seeds, do seed production, and then offer them at their sites.

Same for Gleckler Seeds until Adam had to close his site.

Same for Marianne Jones,formerly of TN who was commercial, who often requested over 100 varieties at a time from my SSE listings, but I do not send to the new website.

As you know, and I've posted this before, unless varieties are grown and seeds shared,they become obsolete. I've seen this time and time again with SSE listings. One of my seed producers for each seed offer sends fresh seeds for some older known great ones and many folks have never heard of them; their loss IMO.

No doubt I'm forgetting some,well yes I am,I also exchange seeds with others elsewhere as trades and those would include Iva in Slovenia,matic in same, Charline in France, Tude in Romania, Geza in Hungary, a new person in Denmark,Clara in Germany, Reinhard Kraft in Germany Vladimir in the Czech Republic, Valerian in Romania, Marina in Russia but she's switching to melons...... that's all I can think of now, but for sure forgetting some,oops, buying seeds from Ilex in Spain, who now lists in the SSE Yearbook,since he's prevented from selling seeds in Spain due to EU regulations.

Carolyn, OK, not all commercial here at the end of my post but what I get from them gets shared with those who are commercial

[KarenO]

Fascinating. I don't believe that has been made clear before that I can recall.
are there links to the seed sales websites of the Excellent European folks mentioned?
KarenO

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by KarenO

Fascinating. I don't believe that has been made clear before that I can recall.
are there links to the seed sales websites of the Excellent European folks mentioned?
KarenO

Karen, you added about links for websites since originally you hadn't said that in the copy I got at home.

Almost none of my sources I mentioned have their own websites where they sell seeds,but I'd have to go back and check to be sure.

Most are contacts I've made over a many years period of time, and at different message sites where I once posted but seldom do any more. And of course contacts made here at Tville as well,going back to 2006 when TV first opened.

Actually you are the first person who has asked me what I do with my seeds personally.

Again, get seeds for varieties out there so others can share and help prevent varieties from going obsolete.When varieties are shared in a club_like fashion as some are,that doesn't help IMO.

Carolyn