Which website to buy Modern Hybrid seeds 200 - 500 pieces

[dannyogolo]

I am in need to buy Modern Hybrid seeds only.
I have seen them in Romania but unfortunately, no website in Romania can ship seeds out of Romania and I have given up trying.

Does anyone know a website or country other than Romania where I can buy these modern hybrid seeds? :

Tomate Cinto RZ F1 - 200 seeds
Tomate Matias F1 - 200 seeds
Tomate Ismini F1 - 500 seeds
Tomate Tracie F1 - 500 seeds
Tomate Addalyn F1 - 500 seeds
Tomate Hector F1 - 1000 seeds

I am willing to buy from 2 sites also, as long as I can get them from both shops
Thanks in anticipation

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by dannyogolo

I am in need to buy Modern Hybrid seeds only.
I have seen them in Romania but unfortunately, no website in Romania can ship seeds out of Romania and I have given up trying.

Does anyone know a website or country other than Romania where I can buy these modern hybrid seeds? :

Tomate Cinto RZ F1 - 200 seeds
Tomate Matias F1 - 200 seeds
Tomate Ismini F1 - 500 seeds
Tomate Tracie F1 - 500 seeds
Tomate Addalyn F1 - 500 seeds
Tomate Hector F1 - 1000 seeds

I am willing to buy from 2 sites also, as long as I can get them from both shops
Thanks in anticipation

Danny,

I'm sure I saw you posting the same question elsewhere with many responses for you.

But I can't remember where,if in WANTED,or starting from seed,etc.

I'd like some confirmation that most of my brain memory is still there and don't have time to do a search here.

Thanks in advance,

Carolyn

[dannyogolo]

Yes,
That request was more of a call for help I asked from Romanians.
But with the responses I got there, I realized its not possible to buy and ship seeds out of Romania.
That prompted me to start this post, to see if there are other websites in other countries where i can get them/similar beefsteak varieties

[seaeagle]

You might try EBAY in the United Kingdom.A lot of those sellers are from Europe and a lot ship worldwide.You may even find what you are looking for.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_fr...c&LH_PrefLoc=1

I refined the search a little, not sure if it will save it here

Shop Wisely

Do you know who bred them, and where? The breeders may know where to buy them. If they were bred in Romania, that might be a problem (if no one in Romania ships them out), but they may export them, still.

What sticks out to you about these tomatoes, in particular? What's your climate and soil like? What tomato diseases and pests are a problem in the area? Is it more humid or arid? Is it windy? Cold winters or warm winters? Elevation?

Did you say you're also wondering about similar varieties?

You may find some to your liking among these OP and hybrid varieties (but I would research it thoroughly):

EDIT: Sorry, I missed the hybrid-only part of your post. Only the ones that say F1 are hybrids. I don't know how modern they are, but there are much newer hybrids.

Red Rocket
Thessaloniki
Chapman
Heatwave II F1
Creole
Aussie
Celebrity F1
Better Boy F1, Big Beef F1, Big Boy F1, Brandy Boy F1, Beefmaster F1 and all those with big, boy and such in the name
Atkinson
Marmande
Cosmonaut Volkov
Jet Star F1
Jetsetter F1
Neves Azorean Red
New Yorker
New Yorker V
Coldset
Forest Fire
Gregori's Altai
Early Wonder
Grosse Lisse (AKA Trophy)
Super Sioux
Sioux
Manitoba
North Dakota Ealiana
Spark's Ealiana (and other Earlianas)
Break O'Day
Good Old-fashioned Red
Mexico
Soldacki
Talbot Russian
Mat-Su Express
Moskvich
Peron
Crimson Sprinter
Early Glee
Early Rouge
Firesteel
Sheyenne
Stick
Beaverlodge Slicer
Legend
Siletz
Park's Whopper CR Improved F1
Sasha's Altai
George Detsikas Italian Red

Some of those should probably do a lot better than others, but it depends. Some of the ones I listed with late maturity are early in some areas (e.g. Aussie). Some of those are probably smaler than you want, but most are big for the days to maturity. A couple of those may be larger than desired (e.g. Chapman, George Detsikas Italian Red and Neves Azorean Red are pretty big; Aussie can be quite large, too).

If you don't mind a somewhat smaller tomato, I highly recommend trying Matina and Early Girl F1. If you're open to pink tomatoes, there are more I may have listed, too.

[AlittleSalt]

Carolyn, the other thread is here http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?p=630393

Moshou is who I was going to ask about this, but I see they have already replied in the other thread.

[seaeagle]

Originally Posted by dannyogolo

Yes,
That request was more of a call for help I asked from Romanians.
But with the responses I got there, I realized its not possible to buy and ship seeds out of Romania.
That prompted me to start this post, to see if there are other websites in other countries where i can get them/similar beefsteak varieties

This company has Hector F1.Doesn't say where they will ship to

http://www.agrishorticulture.com/en/...ry/determinate

Reimer Seeds has a lot of hybrids (not the ones you wanted, though), and it says it ships to Nigeria. A lot of people have given them bad reviews on the Garden Watchdog, but I think they've improved since the reviews were given. If you're buying hybrids, they probably get the seeds from other sources anyway. Whatever the case, my experiences with them have been decent, both for OP and F1 hybrid seed. You can order bulk seed, too: I've only done that with peas and beans there, and I've only planted from the peas so far (which are growing well; I planted them about a year after I purchased them).

One thing you might try, if you don't need them this year, per se, is requesting that the vendor carry the varieties you want. I don't know if they'd carry the varieties, but it's a step, anyway.

[dannyogolo]

Originally Posted by shule1

Do you know who bred them, and where? The breeders may know where to buy them. If they were bred in Romania, that might be a problem (if no one in Romania ships them out), but they may export them, still.

What sticks out to you about these tomatoes, in particular? What's your climate and soil like? What tomato diseases and pests are a problem in the area? Is it more humid or arid? Is it windy? Cold winters or warm winters? Elevation?

Did you say you're also wondering about similar varieties?
You may find some to your liking among these OP and hybrid varieties (but I would research it thoroughly):


EDIT: Sorry, I missed the hybrid-only part of your post. Only the ones that say F1 are hybrids. I don't know how modern they are, but there are much newer hybrids.

Red Rocket
Thessaloniki
Chapman
Heatwave II F1
Creole
Aussie
Celebrity F1
Better Boy F1, Big Beef F1, Big Boy F1, Brandy Boy F1, Beefmaster F1 and all those with big, boy and such in the name
Atkinson
Marmande
Cosmonaut Volkov
Jet Star F1
Jetsetter F1
Neves Azorean Red
New Yorker
New Yorker V
Coldset
Forest Fire
Gregori's Altai
Early Wonder
Grosse Lisse (AKA Trophy)
Super Sioux
Sioux
Manitoba
North Dakota Ealiana
Spark's Ealiana (and other Earlianas)
Break O'Day
Good Old-fashioned Red
Mexico
Soldacki
Talbot Russian
Mat-Su Express
Moskvich
Peron
Crimson Sprinter
Early Glee
Early Rouge
Firesteel
Sheyenne
Stick
Beaverlodge Slicer
Legend
Siletz
Park's Whopper CR Improved F1
Sasha's Altai
George Detsikas Italian Red

Some of those should probably do a lot better than others, but it depends. Some of the ones I listed with late maturity are early in some areas (e.g. Aussie). Some of those are probably smaler than you want, but most are big for the days to maturity. A couple of those may be larger than desired (e.g. Chapman, George Detsikas Italian Red and Neves Azorean Red are pretty big; Aussie can be quite large, too).

If you don't mind a somewhat smaller tomato, I highly recommend trying Matina and Early Girl F1. If you're open to pink tomatoes, there are more I may have listed, too.

I can only imagine the time it took to make this reply. Very many thanks.
Now my replies (and I will edit the first post so new readers can reply based on it without having to go thru the entire post:

1. Who bred them?

- Cinto F1 (Rijk Zwaan)
- Matias F1 (Seminis)
- Ismini F1 (Hazera)
- Tracie F1 (Hazera)
- Addalyn F1 (Hazera)
- Hector F1 (Clause Seeds)

Consider these photos, they inspire me a lot. Consider they are all 300 grams of beefsteak !!!


Check this link also: http://www.morami.ro/produse-seminte...-f1-p4713.html

2. What strikes out to me about them (Features)
The major thing I like about them is that they are:
a. "HIGH YIELDING
b. "SEEM TO PRODUCE SAME SIZE FRUITS"
c. "ARE HIBRIDS, SO WILL LIKELY HAVE EDGE OVER HEIRLOOM" (I am producing for fresh market resell, so I really dont bother about most home user features)
d. "THEY ARE BIG BEEFSTEAK" - most being 250-300 grams
3. MY Climate
They will be planted in Rivers State, Nigeria. A coastal state. The climate is mostly hot and humid.

4. I am planting the Indeterminate varieties inside greenhouse AND the semi determinate varieties I will plant in the open field, inside same farm environment.

5. This is not a tomato farmers area, so there is little or no information about TOMATO DISEASES HERE. Though I have read a lot about them, and I'm prepared to PREVENT rather than repair.

I'm glad you appreciated it! You're welcome.

For uniformity, size and production, Thessaloniki has done better than anything else I've tried. It doesn't work out as well for some people, though, but if you can, I'd try it, at least (on a small scale to make sure it does well first). Creole might be worth trying out in a hot, humid area. I'm guessing those who live in Texas, Florida and similar areas will have more suggestions. It's semi-arid in my region.

It sounds like your area could potentially have nematodes and potentially some fungal diseases, due to the heat and/or humidity. So, those might be some things you'd want to consider. Atkinson is supposed to have some Nematode tolerance, among lots of other things; Celebrity F1, too. Celebrity is productive with a good size, but some people complain about flavor.

Are you growing outdoors or in a greenhouse? That picture looks like it's inside a greenhouse.

[dannyogolo]

Originally Posted by shule1

I'm glad you appreciated it! You're welcome.

For uniformity, size and production, Thessaloniki has done better than anything else I've tried. It doesn't work out as well for some people, though, but if you can, I'd try it, at least (on a small scale to make sure it does well first). Creole might be worth trying out in a hot, humid area. I'm guessing those who live in Texas, Florida and similar areas will have more suggestions. It's semi-arid in my region.

It sounds like your area could potentially have nematodes and potentially some fungal diseases, due to the heat and/or humidity. So, those might be some things you'd want to consider. Atkinson is supposed to have some Nematode tolerance, among lots of other things; Celebrity F1, too. Celebrity is productive with a good size, but some people complain about flavor.

Are you growing outdoors or in a greenhouse? That picture looks like it's inside a greenhouse.

While searching, I will keep your recommendations in mind.

Meanwhile as I wrote earlier,
I will plant the indeterminate varieties IN THE GREENHOUSE using Coco coir based hydroponics
While I will plant the semi-determinate varieties in the open field, adjacent to the greenhouse

[dannyogolo]

Meanwhile, thanks @seaeagle and @shule1

Okay, I thought you were doing everything outside.

You might talk to AKmark and research his posts here. He does a lot of greenhouse-growing (but in Alaska). He's the one who bred Mat-Su Express. I'm not sure if he does hydroponics, though. I don't do either, except I do start seeds in a small, unheated greenhouse (but I transplant them outside after the last frost or so). There's a booklet he highly recommended for greenhouse growers you might want to check out, if it ships to your area.

There's a forum here for market growers. That may be nice to use, too.

Are you going for the fresh market? I don't know about in your area, but in some areas it sounds like it may be easier to sell medium-sized tomatoes than large ones, for fresh market. A pound isn't extremely large, though (but it is large); so, I don't know.