Naming Tomato Varieties

bluelytes · July 3, 2007

I saved some seeds from a commercial tomato that I purchased at the local grocery store. I am now growing these out. I think ittsa safe bet that it is a hybrid that I started with. Do I get to name the growout from my saved seeds??

Also, I have some seeds sent to me from the Philipine Islands. It apparently has never been named. Can I name this??

Regards;
bluelytes

**carolyn137** · July 4, 2007

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Originally Posted by bluelytes

I saved some seeds from a commercial tomato that I purchased at the local grocery store. I am now growing these out. I think ittsa safe bet that it is a hybrid that I started with. Do I get to name the growout from my saved seeds??

Also, I have some seeds sent to me from the Philipine Islands. It apparently has never been named. Can I name this??

Regards;
bluelytes

It probably is a commercial hybrid in which case it might well take several years after making selections with the F2 growouts from saved seeds ( grow as many plants as you can so you can see any genetic segregation at work) from the fruits you bought.

If you found a selection that you thought was terrific, and got it to the genetically stable OP state, then yes, you could name it.

You don't say what you thought of the taste of the commercial fruits that you bought. And of course not knowing what its real name is, there's no way to know anything more about it.

As for the seeds you got from the Phillipines, how did you get them and what do you already know about them, as in what did the sender tell you?

Volvo · July 4, 2007

Under grubs post Äussie Contigency"i uploaded a Pic of some Tommies..Now the seed from these was given to me by an old mate who has'nt the slightest idea what the name of the variety is

...Or where he got them??..
Oldtimers me think its called

..
These Tommies grow a nice size and taste is "Good", now?? question is how do i name this variety as i'm planning to keep more seed from them??...
Aaaand have a slight feeling they might be seed from a variety i may have given him and has bounced back home

......
PS..How many more varietese you think may be floating about out there double named more or less??...

**carolyn137** · July 4, 2007

PS..How many more varietese you think may be floating about out there double named more or less??...

*****

Good question Peter.

And this question has been bounced around as to double listed varieties in the SSE Yearbook. But other than knowing that it happens, b'c seeds get passed on and while the variety name was once known, it's been forgotten, so it gets a new name.

This happens more with older commercial OP
s I think than with family heirlooms that have been documented.

As to naming your variety, try to incorporate the area it's from, or the name of the person you got the seeds from or whatever.

Several years ago I let folks at GW name what we now know as Neves Azorean Red. I had great background info as well. And I think it came as a surprise to many what all goes into naming an other wise unnamed varietry. 22 folks posted in that thread and I sent them all seeds of NAR.

Tomstrees · July 4, 2007

Carolyn,

Naming NAR was the best method ever ...
I really liked that idea ~

Tom

dice · July 5, 2007

Volvo, those accordioned-looking green ones
in your picture on that thread look a lot like
the ones in this thread:

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=5596

(As long as we're on long forgotten things, ever
remember seeing an open sportfisher, wood lapstrake
hull, maybe 24-28 feet, no flying bridge or cabin,
with twin exhaust stacks like a semi truck beside
the cockpit? Looked kind of like a Lyman inboard
that had spent a year in a gym lifting weights,
wider and kind of bigger all over but not really
longer, probably built in the U.S. in the late '50s
or early '60s. I've been trying all day to remember
what the name of that boat builder/model was,
but can't quite dredge it up.)

Volvo · July 5, 2007

Dice that lot sure hangin

, er growing well ey

....
Any of our Aussie Gardeners grown that variety??....

dice · July 5, 2007

"Any of our Aussie Gardeners grown that variety??"

I don't know. There are probably a few different
cultivars that look like that on the vine.

As far as the boat question goes, it's not every
day that one sees a twin-screw inboard open
sportfisher with twin vertical exhaust stacks
like that. If you had ever seen one, you would
probably remember it.

July 3, 2007	#1
bluelytes Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 250	Naming Tomato Varieties I saved some seeds from a commercial tomato that I purchased at the local grocery store. I am now growing these out. I think ittsa safe bet that it is a hybrid that I started with. Do I get to name the growout from my saved seeds?? Also, I have some seeds sent to me from the Philipine Islands. It apparently has never been named. Can I name this?? Regards; bluelytes

July 4, 2007	#3
Volvo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 289	Under grubs post Äussie Contigency"i uploaded a Pic of some Tommies..Now the seed from these was given to me by an old mate who has'nt the slightest idea what the name of the variety is ...Or where he got them??.. Oldtimers me think its called .. These Tommies grow a nice size and taste is "Good", now?? question is how do i name this variety as i'm planning to keep more seed from them??... Aaaand have a slight feeling they might be seed from a variety i may have given him and has bounced back home ...... PS..How many more varietese you think may be floating about out there double named more or less??... __________________ Good Better Best Never let It rest Until Your Good Is Better And Your Better Best

July 4, 2007	#4
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	PS..How many more varietese you think may be floating about out there double named more or less??... ***** Good question Peter. And this question has been bounced around as to double listed varieties in the SSE Yearbook. But other than knowing that it happens, b'c seeds get passed on and while the variety name was once known, it's been forgotten, so it gets a new name. This happens more with older commercial OP s I think than with family heirlooms that have been documented. As to naming your variety, try to incorporate the area it's from, or the name of the person you got the seeds from or whatever. Several years ago I let folks at GW name what we now know as Neves Azorean Red. I had great background info as well. And I think it came as a surprise to many what all goes into naming an other wise unnamed varietry. 22 folks posted in that thread and I sent them all seeds of NAR. __________________ Carolyn

July 4, 2007	#5
Tomstrees Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Bayshore Posts: 3,848	Carolyn, Naming NAR was the best method ever ... I really liked that idea ~ Tom __________________ My green thumb came only as a result of the mistakes I made while learning to see things from the plant's point of view. ~ H. Fred Ale

July 5, 2007	#6
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	Volvo, those accordioned-looking green ones in your picture on that thread look a lot like the ones in this thread: http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=5596 (As long as we're on long forgotten things, ever remember seeing an open sportfisher, wood lapstrake hull, maybe 24-28 feet, no flying bridge or cabin, with twin exhaust stacks like a semi truck beside the cockpit? Looked kind of like a Lyman inboard that had spent a year in a gym lifting weights, wider and kind of bigger all over but not really longer, probably built in the U.S. in the late '50s or early '60s. I've been trying all day to remember what the name of that boat builder/model was, but can't quite dredge it up.) __________________ -- alias

July 5, 2007	#7
Volvo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 289	Dice that lot sure hangin , er growing well ey .... Any of our Aussie Gardeners grown that variety??.... __________________ Good Better Best Never let It rest Until Your Good Is Better And Your Better Best