Looking for a small IND. Red slicer

Greatgardens · September 11, 2017

I want to try a small-med red indeterminate along with Jaune Flamme' next season. Needs to fit nicely in a regular EarthBox. Preferably round to slightly oblate, not prone to cracking, catfacing, etc. (Most smaller roundish toms seem to do that.) The habit of JF seems ideal. Small, open foliage, looong producing. (This year's is still going strong and the plant looks like it is June, and not Sept.)

Have not found any of the dwarf project tomatoes that seem to fit the bill. Probably the closest is Better Bush F1, but it has pretty thick foliage, so is somewhat prone to disease.

Any ideas? F1's are OK, too.

-GG

KarenO · September 11, 2017

Bloody butcher may fit the bill
KarenO

Labradors2 · September 11, 2017

Bulgarian Triumph might work. Tania says it's a compact indeterminate. Perfect small red fruit and tasty too!

Linda

Tormato · September 11, 2017

I second Bulgarian Triumph. It's the best tasting small red I've ever trialed.

**carolyn137** · September 11, 2017

I like Bulgarian Triumph as well but strongly also suggest Druzba

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Druzba

I find it to be more compact than others who commented on it at the link above, and routinely when growing in pots or grow bags would use just those 3 ring circular supports for it.

I never saw blemishes on it, nor splitting of any kind,in my experience.

Taste? Outstanding,again,IMO.

Carolyn

ddsack · September 11, 2017

I was really impressed with my two Medvezhiya Lapa plants this summer. High production, don't take up much space, good flavor. I grew in the ground, but don't see why they wouldn't do well in containers.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Medvezhiya_Lapa

zipcode · September 12, 2017

Druzba is nice, but probably larger than you want. It's been in same size as Big Beef for me, maybe a bit smaller.
I think in terms of fruit size/equal size/open habit/smooth fruit, Matina is a solid choice.

Greatgardens · September 12, 2017

@zipcode- How big does Matina fruit get for you? The one description I saw at Tatina's was 1-3 oz.

OTOH, Burpee's site says 4-6 oz, which should be more of a "slicer."

zipcode · September 12, 2017

2-3 oz I would say. Which is the size JF had. I would categorize both of them in the cocktail category (that's how they're called in Europe at least).

saltmarsh · September 12, 2017

Punta Banta

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Punta_Banda

Quarter them and they are hard to beat in a salad. Highly productive trouble free plants. Claud

Plants top out at about 30 inches, but continue to branch below and are still producing tomatoes. Don't over water this one.

Greatgardens · September 14, 2017

How about Moskvich/Moscovich? Any reports on it? 4-6z.?

-GG

zipcode · September 14, 2017

It's determinate. 4-6 oz sounds about right.

Greatgardens · September 14, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by zipcode

It's determinate. 4-6 oz sounds about right.

Not indeterminate -- seems to be listed as IND.? Maybe semi?

Also, Tatiana's lists MAX as an improved Moskvich, but I can find no info on it or sources. (?)

creister · September 20, 2017

Morovsky Div is small red indeterminate.

September 11, 2017	#1
Greatgardens Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,124	Looking for a small IND. Red slicer I want to try a small-med red indeterminate along with Jaune Flamme' next season. Needs to fit nicely in a regular EarthBox. Preferably round to slightly oblate, not prone to cracking, catfacing, etc. (Most smaller roundish toms seem to do that.) The habit of JF seems ideal. Small, open foliage, looong producing. (This year's is still going strong and the plant looks like it is June, and not Sept.) Have not found any of the dwarf project tomatoes that seem to fit the bill. Probably the closest is Better Bush F1, but it has pretty thick foliage, so is somewhat prone to disease. Any ideas? F1's are OK, too. -GG Last edited by Greatgardens; September 11, 2017 at 04:33 PM.

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Labradors2 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,896	Bulgarian Triumph might work. Tania says it's a compact indeterminate. Perfect small red fruit and tasty too! Linda Last edited by Labradors2; September 12, 2017 at 10:33 AM.

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carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	I like Bulgarian Triumph as well but strongly also suggest Druzba http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Druzba I find it to be more compact than others who commented on it at the link above, and routinely when growing in pots or grow bags would use just those 3 ring circular supports for it. I never saw blemishes on it, nor splitting of any kind,in my experience. Taste? Outstanding,again,IMO. Carolyn __________________ Carolyn

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ddsack Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Minnesota - zone 3 Posts: 3,231	I was really impressed with my two Medvezhiya Lapa plants this summer. High production, don't take up much space, good flavor. I grew in the ground, but don't see why they wouldn't do well in containers. http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Medvezhiya_Lapa __________________ Dee **************

September 12, 2017	#8
Greatgardens Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,124	@zipcode- How big does Matina fruit get for you? The one description I saw at Tatina's was 1-3 oz. OTOH, Burpee's site says 4-6 oz, which should be more of a "slicer." Last edited by Greatgardens; September 12, 2017 at 09:12 AM.

September 11, 2017	#2
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	Bloody butcher may fit the bill KarenO

September 11, 2017	#4
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	I second Bulgarian Triumph. It's the best tasting small red I've ever trialed.

September 12, 2017	#7
zipcode Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Romania/Germany , z 4-6 Posts: 1,582	Druzba is nice, but probably larger than you want. It's been in same size as Big Beef for me, maybe a bit smaller. I think in terms of fruit size/equal size/open habit/smooth fruit, Matina is a solid choice.

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saltmarsh Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 2 miles south of Yoknapatawpha Zone 7b Posts: 662	Punta Banta http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Punta_Banda Quarter them and they are hard to beat in a salad. Highly productive trouble free plants. Claud Plants top out at about 30 inches, but continue to branch below and are still producing tomatoes. Don't over water this one. Last edited by saltmarsh; September 12, 2017 at 06:20 PM. Reason: Grow note.

September 14, 2017	#11
Greatgardens Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,124	How about Moskvich/Moscovich? Any reports on it? 4-6z.? -GG

September 20, 2017	#14
creister Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Abilene, TX zone 7 Posts: 1,478	Morovsky Div is small red indeterminate.