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View Poll Results: Have you grown Mikado before?
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Old April 11, 2018   #1
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So I really like Bloody Butcher (it's earliness, PL, flavor and size), and I'm growing Matsu Express this year (that I received from Cole a couple of years ago). I read recently that Mikado was believed to be the parent of B.B. and Stupice. Anyways, I was curious how close the original Mikado (or Turner Hybrid) is to the taste of B.B. for those that have grown it?





I also read on Victory Seed that there's some speculation that Mikdao may have been the same as Brandywine Pink?!

Anyone here do a comparison before?

I also have read Tatiana's site about Mikado and see that she offers what appears to be a smaller version of Mikado (4-6oz). Whereas there are other sites offering a larger version such as this site.

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I have grown bothe Bloody Butcher and Stupice. The latter has more than one version. I like the one that I hrew last year. It was much better than BB. So I am growing it again. I am also growing Mat Su. It is supposed to have the earliness of BB but bigger fruits. Sounds good to me.
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Old April 11, 2018   #5
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As the above posts and links have indicated,there is NO ONE Mikado since some give a large size, some give one color,some another color,some say PL and some say RL.

This kind of info is typical for what was happening in the late 1800's to perhaps the early 1900's

You could say that names were changed to protect the innocent,but in reality protected the guilty,if you will.It was a battle between seed companies to come up with new varieties,so they changed the names of some to indicate they had a unique variety.

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Thanks Carolyn, sounds like the tomato market was sort of a "wild west" and in a state of chaos back then! Some might argue it's still that way today..

There's a tomato offered on the site above that looks pretty decent, PL, size and then if the tomato is remotely similar to Brandywine or Bloody Butcher then I'd be happy. I'll buy seeds at the end of the year from them and try it next year.

http://hudsonvalleyseed.com/mikado-tomato.html

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So I really like Bloody Butcher (it's earliness, PL, flavor and size), and I'm growing Matsu Express this year (that I received from Cole a couple of years ago). I read recently that Mikado was believed to be the parent of B.B. and Stupice. Anyways, I was curious how close the original Mikado (or Turner Hybrid) is to the taste of B.B. for those that have grown it?





I also read on Victory Seed that there's some speculation that Mikdao may have been the same as Brandywine Pink?!

Anyone here do a comparison before?

I also have read Tatiana's site about Mikado and see that she offers what appears to be a smaller version of Mikado (4-6oz). Whereas there are other sites offering a larger version such as this site.

Thanks,
Al
Mat-Su will be stable and OP this year. I have 150 going right now, and they are the first to set fruit over about 35-40 varieties. They are also vigorous, and set a lot of fruit. If you prune them and keep trusses to 5-6 tomatoes they are also nice size. The taste has been good to fantastic. Keep an eye on my container thread, it could get pretty entertaining real fast.
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So far my 2 Mat Su plants are doing great.. I think one of them has buds. Not sure. But i have 3 other vazrieties with flowers already.
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Thanks Mark, Matsu has got me excited and I can't wait to taste those fruits.

It has great parents! I'll definitely keep and eye on the container threads..

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