Seeds have been ordered

[glypnirsgirl]

Well I took Craig's list as the basic list and I added a few more tomatoes that I had been interested in. This is the final list that I have come up with. I have been able to find all the seeds and order them - except for the Sungold and Lucky Giant which I still plan to plant, but I have not found seeds.

I ordered from Seed Savers Exchange, Victory Seed, and Tomatofest.

Cherry tomatoes
SSE Brown Berry
VSF Black Cherry
VSF Kimberly (a red cherry)
SSE Blondkopfchen (yellow cherry)

Dark/Black
SSE Black from Tula
vsf Cherokee Purple
VSF Cherokee Chocolate
VSF/SSE Black Krim
TF Paul robeson

Pinks
SSE Brandywine OG
SSE Brandywine Suddeth Strain
TF Stump of the World
VSF Eva's Purple Ball
VSF Magnus
VSF Marianna's Peace

Reds
SSE Bloody Butcher
VSF Red Brandywine
VSF Marmande
TF Aker's West Virginia
TF Andrew Rahart's Jumbo Red
TF Nepal

Orange
Sungold

Yellow
VSF Lillian's yellow Heirloom
TF Hugh's
SSE Kellogg's Breakfast

Green
VSF Cherokee Green
Lucky Giant
VSF Green Giant

Bicolor
VSF Little Lucky
VSF Lucky Cross


Now I am looking forward to September when it is a little cooler and I can start stripping the sod from the new place I have decided to move the garden to.

We have blackberry and blueberry bushes that we will need to transplant this fall. We planted them in January, and by the time that summer got here, they were in the shade. So we will be moving those as well.

thank you for all of your help and suggestions. i am amazed at how well we have done for not knowing a thing about what we were doing when we started!

Elaine

[sprtsguy76]

You have a solid list there for sure. But where are the hearts? Your missing Anna Russian and German Red Strawberry.

Damon

[dice]

Never heard of "Lucky Giant" (nor has Google). I think that
name may be a compendium of "Lucky Cross" and "Green Giant", and there is no such tomato cultivar.

Why strip the sod? The garden might appreciate that organic
matter, as long as it is dead. With sandy soil, a lack of organic
matter or clay to hold water in the heat of summer is usually
the main problem.

There are a couple of ways to kill it off. One is to pile up
newspaper on it several layers thick, with something else
on top of that to hold it down against the wind (mulch, etc).
Another way is to stretch clear plastic out over the area where
you want to kill the sod, weighed down in the corners with
rocks, and let it bake for a couple of months in the summer
sun. This will also help control root knot nematodes (they
love sandy soil), kill weed seeds, etc.

[carolyn137]

Agree it has to be Green Giant if lisited under the greens.

And the name that was given to this variety by the originator is Eva Purple Ball, I don't know who made the possesive out of it and called it Eva's.

And I agree with Damon as in...where are the hearts? Damon listed just two but I could name lots more as he could as well. At some time I think you've just got to try some b'c they're almost my fave group for taste, superb taste, for most of them.

Very nice list you have there.

[glypnirsgirl]

Carolyn - b'c --- what is this?

I have shyed away from the hearts because of their size. I have always been told that here in Texas we should stick to the medium and small tomatoes due to the short time we have from too cold to too hot for tomatoes. Especially since I am trying to get a jump on the growing season, I may be able to get some hearts in also.

Feldon had recommended earlier this year that I was late starting. i got lucky because we had a really mild spring and I got fruit set before the 100 plus heat set in. I don't expect a repeat of that luck though so I am going to be starting my seeds in mid-January as he recommended.

Dice - I assume that I do have a true Brandywine? It sure is flavorful. Potato leaf and clear skin?

Well no wonder I wasn't able to find Lucky Giant anywhere!!! Now I can stop looking. I had keyed the list to where I had ordered the seeds, and I had Lucky Giant (probably I am the culprit when I was trying to copy Craig's list of what to get and adding a few of my own).

[creister]

I grew German Red Strawberry this year, and it did well enough to come back next year. I used to shy from some of the larger fruited varieties, but now that I have grown them, most of them work out. Stump of the World, Coustralee, Neves Azorean Red, Earl's Faux and some others. Try them all, you will never know if you don't.

[dice]

Carolyn - b'c --- what is this?

I believe "b'c" means "because" in Carolyn's posts.

I have shyed away from the hearts because of their size. I have always been told that here in Texas we should stick to the medium and small tomatoes due to the short time we have from too cold to too hot for tomatoes. Especially since I am trying to get a jump on the growing season, I may be able to get some hearts in also.

There are certainly some within your range. Here are some
photos from Deer Park's place in Pasadena, Texas:

http://www.feldoncentral.com/garden/...ark/Varieties/

Check out his raised beds:

http://www.feldoncentral.com/garden/..._8487.jpg.html

That is a style that works over top of a sandy soil.

Dice - I assume that I do have a true Brandywine? It sure is flavorful. Potato leaf and clear skin?

Looks like it to me. Most hearts are not larger than Brandywines,
although some can be later ripening.

You may find this resource helpful in researching days to
maturity and so on:

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/C...o_Variety_List

(From the look of those Brandywines, you are off to a good
start in this adventure.)

[TheClaw]

Nice list. Have you heard about Coyote? It would have to be classified as a cherry although it is about the size of a pea or the tip of your little finger. It has been a hit with everyone that I have shared it with and I am harvesting all the seeds that I can. I got my one plant from Craig LeHoullier her in Raleigh, NC. The flavor is somewhat sweet but there is more to it than that. I would rate it a solid nine out of ten.

Howard

[carolyn137]

Carolyn - b'c --- what is this?

Shorthand for because as someone above noted and sometimes I do it as b/c.

I also use re, from the Latin, when referring to something, such as let's talk about BER re all the variables that can induce it.

And almost everyone here refers to regular foliage as RL and potato leaf foliage as PL, and lots and lots of folks abbreviate variety names as well such as:

NAR
KBX
EPP
PPP
CP

.....and on and on and on. If something isn't familiar to you whether it be a variety name abbreviation or another abbreviation, just ask the person who used it, as you did with me just now, to explain it

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[glypnirsgirl]

Thank you all for your input. I have decided to add hearts to the list. I paid a visit to the TGS website to order the seeds --- and they had all that I was interested in (some were from you, Carolyn! --- which was exciting for me) and they had the Sun Gold also. So this is the additions:

Anna Russian
German Red Strawberry
Kosovo
Japanese

Amazing to find so much diversity.

I got notice from two of the suppliers that my seeds had already shipped. So I feel like I am much further along in planning for my 2010 crop.

Thanks for your help.

Elaine

[feldon30]

Growing 34 plants, it is hard every year to stick with my favorites and also branch out into new varieties. This year, I grew Tony's Italian which is a heart shaped, really more of a roma/plum. I got about 20 fruit off of 2 plants stuffed into one cage, and remember this was an exceptionally tough year with cool early weather and then the blast furnace kicked on and never quit.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by feldon30

Growing 34 plants, it is hard every year to stick with my favorites and also branch out into new varieties. This year, I grew Tony's Italian which is a heart shaped, really more of a roma/plum. I got about 20 fruit off of 2 plants stuffed into one cage, and remember this was an exceptionally tough year with cool early weather and then the blast furnace kicked on and never quit.

Feldon, I think I sent Tony's Italian to Suze initially and it sure shouldn't be heart shaped, rather a small red plum with a small nipple at the end and with great taste as I remember since I think I last grew it in 2004. From Sicily to the US in about 1900.

[feldon30]

Carolyn, is there some website I can reference which will distinguish for me the difference between a heart, oxheart, plum, roma, paste, and any other permutations I haven't even thought of?

The Tony's Italian I picked were delicious and meet with your description, even if I won't be able to remember it tomorrow.

[feldon30]

Originally Posted by glypnirsgirl

I got notice from two of the suppliers that my seeds had already shipped. So I feel like I am much further along in planning for my 2010 crop.

I thought I planned ahead. You've still got 5 months you can order seeds.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by feldon30

Carolyn, is there some website I can reference which will distinguish for me the difference between a heart, oxheart, plum, roma, paste, and any other permutations I haven't even thought of?

The Tony's Italian I picked were delicious and meet with your description, even if I won't be able to remember it tomorrow.

If you can't remember the taste tomorrow it isn't a delicious tomato.

No, I don't know any website that distinguishes the terms you used, but I'll try.

Heart shaped and oxheart are synonyms but I prefer heart shaped.

Paste tomatoes can include plum or roma or elongated ( Opalka and friends) or any number of shapes and are referred to as pastes by most folks b'c they're meaty with few seeds. SOme even see some beefsteak and heart varieties as being paste types.

For me roma types are more chunky looking, as with Martinos'a Roma and generic romas, than are plum types, and the plum type most folks refer to would be not round plums but well, you know, plum or bomb looking/

If that helps OK, if not, well, I tried.

other terms in use, no doubt, but I can't think of them now except for beefsteak shaped, globe, oblate, and a few more.