Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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November 16, 2009 | #1 |
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2010: Member Grow Lists
This is the time of year when I start to compose my list of tomato varieties for the upcoming season. I've learned to do this early, so that I have plenty of time to figure out which varieties I need to order seeds for. I'm attempting several F1 crosses this year and some will be grown out just for hybridizing.
In addition to the plants I put in here at my place, I've been asked to start seedlings for gardens at a local historical farm homestead that was built in 1757. Since most farmers didn't grow tomatoes in the 1700's, I'm free to decide which heirloom/OP varieties will be planted there. My list so far, in no particular order: Aunt Ruby's German Green Cheeseman's (var. cheesmanii) Green Doctors Cherokee Chocolate Cherokee Purple Malakhitovaya Shkatulka Mortgage Lifter (Pale Leaf Strain) Heinz 1370 Heinz 1350 Heinz 1439 JTD Lutescent Long Red Stick Orange King Brandy Boy F7 Berkeley Tie Dye Tess's Land Race Currant (var. pimpinellifolium) TGSC Black Cherry Wild Tomato Lycopersicon piriforme Wild Tomato Lycopersicon esculentum x peruvianum Wild Tomato Lycopersicon glandulosum Wild Tomato Lycopersicon skorospelka Black Sea Man Opalka P20 F3 Stupice Ananas Noire Lucky Cross Brad's Black Heart JD's Special C-Tex New Big Dwarf Dr. Carolyn Pink Pink German Tree Lutescent Variegated Jersey Devil Grandma Mary's Paste Martino's Roma Dr. Lyle Moreton Hybrid F1 Marianna's Peace SunGold F1 I'll update this as needed. I'd be very interested to see what you are all planning for your 2010 gardens.
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November 16, 2009 | #2 |
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My list to this point:
Amish Paste Aunt Ruby's Green Black Cherry Black Seaman Clear Early Pink Guajito Guker's Special Hungarian Heart Shaped Kellogg's Breakfast(potato leaf) KBX Manitoba Marianna's Peace Matt's Wild Cherry Mini Gold Mystery Black Negro Azteca Neves Azorean Red Omar's Lebanese Paul Robeson Sarnowski Striped Cavern Sungold Super Sioux Thessaloniki Dean |
November 16, 2009 | #3 |
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I have a small rooftop terrace with only about 60 sq ft to work with, so I only try popular, well-reviewed varieties at the moment.
2009 Champ-Black Cherry: Best this year, back for the next! Still cranking out tasty cherries in mid-November here in sunny Madrid. A wonderful, huge plant. Next years challengers, all new to me: Cherry-Sungold F1 — love it or hate it, everyone talks about it Early-Matina Main-Big Beef F1 Late-Cowlick's Brandywine As Gifts-Sophie's choice, for friends with birthdays in April & May who love cute lil plants. Can't wait to hear from them when fruitset rolls around |
November 16, 2009 | #4 |
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Hey Mischka, are you going to use the wild tomatoes for hybridizing, or do they make good eating. I'm dithering over growing some for the novelty, but my space is pretty limited, so I would want them for eating, too.
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November 16, 2009 | #5 |
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Mischka, you're asking the question about three months earlier than I would ever know what I'm going to grow next summer.
Since I try to grow varieties that are new to all or most, since I can grow so few varieties now, it complicates the situation a bit so I'm always on the lookout for someone who wants to share same with me. On hand to date I have: Two new varieties from Macedonia One known Red Heart, meaning variety name known Two other hearts but I forgot if they are red or pink One red beefsteak supposed to be coming, variety name known And I'm going to have to regrow, I think, some that I grew this past season due to lack of fruits and saved seeds. And I just found out that I totally forgot to list one of my newest ones from Reinhard for my SSE listings, but bcday will take up the slack on that one and is listing it. I'll be back in a few months to post my list b'c by that time I should have a clearer picture of what the grow list might be.
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November 16, 2009 | #6 |
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My garden space will decrease drastically next year, so no more over 100 tomatoes for me.
So far, this is my working list which is still too large. I will have to pare it down now and then again if I find any "must haves" before planting time. MAIN BED: Bulgarian Triumph Brandywine Sudduths Cowlick Brandywine Earl's Faux Fritz Ackerman Green Giant Hege's German Pink Herman's Yellow Little Lucky Heart Milka's Red Bulgarian Orange Oxheart Pilarski Pearly Pink Sheboygan Toedebusch Wes CONTAINERS: Dwarf Pink Passion Dwarf Rose Plum Dwarf Scarlet Heart Dwarf Streaked Heart Dwarf Wild Fred Frosty Porky Tasty Red House Free Standing Oh, this is going to be so hard. There are so many more I want to add from my favorites list, and I wish I could grow a dozen or more of my newly named dwarfs.
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November 16, 2009 | #7 |
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Mischka,
What a nice list you've got! Thank you for starting this thread - I also decided to make a list for 2010 earlier than usual - here it is: http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Category:Tatiana's_2010_Growout_List I need to add a couple of Brad's varieties to the list, and I should be all set for the next season Tania
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November 16, 2009 | #8 |
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Since I had to rip out all my plants in early September due to Late Blight, I've had nothing but time to ruminate over varieties and trade.
My semi-final draft list (can I be less committed than that?): IN THE GROUND: Anna Russian Big Beef Bobbie Cowlick Brandywine Earl's Faux Eva Purple Ball German Head Gigantesque Gold Medal Goose Creek Mrs. Benson Orange Russian 117 Prue Russian Rose Wes CONTAINERS: Break O' Day Dwarf Red Heart New Big Dwarf Pink Berkely Tie-Dye Sophie's Choice When can I start planting????? |
November 16, 2009 | #9 |
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Mischka - Like your list - a lot of interesting varieties and an extra dose of genetic variation.
Interested in seeing what comes out of your garden this season. This summer I trialed some wild crosses and the production was amazing. Also found some 'new' old varieties like Lillian's Red Kansas and Bedouin. |
November 16, 2009 | #10 |
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I'm gonna have a hard time keeping it down to 20 plants in 2010. So far, the plans are for:
Ramapo Bloody Butcher Moskvich Momotaro Orange 1 Cowlicks BW* Beefsteak Plum Wes Gigantesque* Black Giant Sandul Moldovan* Brandywine *First Time |
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It deserves to be known more and after all, it is a nice pink heart and I'm a heart person. Here's the memory. Near where I used to live there was a large central commercial farmer's market where my father and others would line up early in the morning and the minute the gate was opened they'd drive like mad for the long sheds where the trucks were backed into that faced onto a long corridor where the buyers would walk along and examine what was available and then dicker on prices. Quite a few times I had to get up very early for that 5 AM gate opening b'c my father had back troubles from time to time and it was my job to pull the baskets towards the end of the truck bed. I was amazed at his ability to do math calculations in his head ASAP as in a buyer saying I'll take 20 baskets at X, my father replying I'll sell them for Y, the comebacks back and forth and then a sale/ But I digress. In that same huge market Harris Seeds from Rochester had a wholesale/retail store and of course I'd go in there with my father from time to time. Fast forward to my moving back East from Denver in 1982 to take care of my parents and one day I drove down there to get I can't remember what, got talking to Joe Huth, who was the main one there, asked him, as I asked everyone, do you know of anyone who has a tomato family heirloom and he said YES. it was one of my frist conquests. He said his barber grew what he thought was a great one, got the seeds for me and I guess the barber's name was Spadaro. I haven't grown it since the mid-90's or so and had forgotten about it. Since I never throw away any tomato seeds I'm sure it's in a vial somewhere, but I sure would appreciate some fresh seeds if that's possible. In return I've got quite a few nice new ones that I'll probably be offering in my seed offer here, many are the same ones I'm listing with SSE. There are two in particular that I know will pique your interest, but I'm not telling now. So thanks for the memory.
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November 17, 2009 | #12 |
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Some old favorites, a handful of brand new-to-me varieties and a continuation of selection within breeding lines from others. I went crazy with crossing last summer and will have several new F2s from winter growouts and another 60 or so F1 crosses (not listed here) to grow next summer for the first time.
AAA Sweet Solara Airdrie Classic Aviuri B&B Boar Beauty Queen Beduin x BBBoar F2 Ben Gantz Big Cheef Black from Tulia Black Krim Blood Gulch BloodyB x CPSun F2 BloodyB x LBBoar F2 Boar's Hoof BHoof x Scabitha F2 Brad's Blackheart BrandX-Septoria BrandyLump 1-12 BrandySweet Plum BTD BTR 302 E38 Bychiy Glaz BZ x Dora F2 Chile Verde Chocolate Amazon Cowlicks Brandywine CP x Bradley 1-2 CP x Sun 1-1 CP x Sun 1-3 Dora Freckled Child Freckled Strawberry Furry Red Hog Gary O'Sena Georgia Streak Salad Green Sausage Grubs Mystery Green Guernsey Island Harvard Square Irish Stripes IS x Sun 1-1 IS x Sun 1-3 IS x Sun 1-4 IS x Sun 1-5 JD's Special C-Tex Kim x PBTD F2 Kim x SpudGiant F2 Little Lucky Heart LizBert x CPSun F2 Lucky Cross Malachite Box Michael Pollan Moravsky Div NARX1 F3-3 NARX2 F3-1 NARXBolseno F1-1 NARXBolseno F1-3 NARXBolseno F1-4 Opalka P20 Giant P20 F2 populations Pale Perfect Purple Paul Robeson PBTD PBTD heart Pink Floyd Porkchop Purple Haze F4 PL PHF3 x BTD F2 Russian Stripe Sabre Ukranian Scabitha SpudGiant 1-6 Striped Turk Stupice x SpudGiant F2 Sungold Red MF SGR MF x PPP SunSugar F1 SS x SpudGiant F2 SS x PBoar F2 SS x Porky F2 Sweet Carneros Pink Valhalla Verde Rallado Vorlon Wes |
November 17, 2009 | #13 |
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Carolyn,
Thank you so much for Spadaro story! You will be the first on the list to receive fresh Spadaro seeds, if everything goes well in the 2010 season . Tania
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November 17, 2009 | #14 |
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Umm...probably won't have my list together until about July..., that's after I should have planted everything.
Three I know for sure, though... Brandywine, Cowlick's Matt's Wild Cherry (and probably a dozen more cherries) WV '63 The rest (probably another 50 to 75) yet to be decided... |
November 17, 2009 | #15 |
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Grow out
With all the stuff I got in trades and the hundreds spent on seeds{ It is an addiction} I dont wanna type it all, I will however be adding a couple more acres to tomatoes!! Thank you all for your gifts, I will take good care of your babies and then pay it forward!! Grate fully
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