Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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January 30, 2010 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 11
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North Dakota/Upper Midwest Heirlooms???
Hello everyone.
I am new here and I have a question for the tomato experts. I grew about 100 different tomato heirlooms last year thanks to some wonderful exchanges I participated in on another site. I guess that makes me a new tomato addict. I sold the left over seedlings to others in my town. The one tomato heirloom that I got asked about was Sheyenne. I had several people tell me that their mother grew this tomato. I didn't have that tomato seed last year but I do now. I would like to grow more heirlooms from my part of the country this year so I am wondering what other heirlooms have their roots in North Dakota or the upper widwest. I know that Big Rainbow came out of Minnesota. So I guess my question is what other heirloom tomatoes have their roots in North Dakota and the surrounding states (Minnesota, Montana, South Dakota)??? Thank you so much for whatever info you can give me!!! Penny |
January 30, 2010 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 139
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Here's a good start
Djena Lee's Golden Girl http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Djena_Lee's_Golden_Girl Believe It Or Not http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Believe_It_Or_Not Cherry, Grandpa's Minnesota Hardy http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Cherry,_Grandpa's_Minnesota_Hardy Cannonball http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Cannonball Golden Bison http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Golden_Bison Bison http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Bison Millet's Dakota http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Millet's_Dakota Farthest North http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Farthest_North |
January 30, 2010 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Edina, MN (Zone 4)
Posts: 945
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Northern Delight
Manitoba Last edited by recruiterg; January 31, 2010 at 05:56 PM. |
January 30, 2010 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 11
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Thank you so much for the responses!!! That's a excellent list k3vin. I totally forgot about Djena Lee's Golden Girl. I knew that was from Minnesota. I love that there are some varieties with "Dakota" and "Bison" in their names. Thanks a lot!
Penny |
January 31, 2010 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Pleasure Island, NC 8a
Posts: 1,162
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What about the "Flathead Monster"? We used to love going up to Flathead Lake a hundred years ago when we could afford to get up & out of Missoula, especially when we had $ to go buy cherries!
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January 31, 2010 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Central MN, USDA Zone 3
Posts: 303
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I think your choices could be tempered by either varieties that do well in ND, or those that were bred there. Unfortunately, tomatoes haven't ever been an important crop in Nodak, so the choices will be reduced if you're hoping to limit them to home-bred.
I'm a MN gardener, and have faced that scenario here as well. Two ways to look at it; positively, one can be confident that all slections and varieties can be cycled through in short order. Negatively, the list isn't as long as, say, New Jersey's. On to some of my faves, born in the area: Sioux (Nebraska) Faribo Gold (Mn) Mingold (Mn) Bison (ND) Pollock (a BC, Canada selection from Chalk's EJ/John Baer/Bonny Best) Firesteel (SD) Melfort (Mb, Canada) Pruden's Purple ( source shrouded in mystery, but supposedly discovered in MN)
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January 31, 2010 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 11
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Thanks everyone for the responses! I have never heard of Flathead Monster before. Such a funky name! And Pruden's Purple from Minnesota??? I had no idea about that. When I was googling some of these varieties I came across a list of tomatoes released from NDSU.
http://www.ag.ndsu.nodak.edu/plantsci/breeding/hort.htm ‘Nodak Early’ TOMATO 1990 ‘Northern Delight’ TOMATO 1990 ‘Small Wonder’ TOMATO 1990 ‘Dakota Gold’ TOMATO 1984 ‘Cannonball’ TOMATO 1973 ‘Lark’ TOMATO 1973 ‘Sheyenne’ TOMATO 1960 ‘Doublerich’ TOMATO 1954 ‘Cavalier’ TOMATO 1953 ‘Bounty’ TOMATO 1941 ‘Allstate’ TOMATO 1940 ‘Victor’ TOMATO 1939 ‘Allred’ TOMATO 1937 ‘Redskin’ TOMATO 1937 ‘Ruby’ TOMATO 1937 ‘Farthest North’ TOMATO 1934 ‘Fargo Yellow Pear’ TOMATO 1932 ‘Golden Bison’ TOMATO 1932 ‘Pink Heart’ TOMATO 1932 ‘Bison’ TOMATO 1929 ‘Fargo’ TOMATO 1927 ‘Viking’ TOMATO 1927 ‘Agassiz’ TOMATO 1925 ‘Early Jumbo’ TOMATO 1925 ‘Red River’ TOMATO 1925 ‘North Dakota Earliana’ TOMATO 1922 I wonder how many of these varieties are still in existence??? I know that I have found some sources for about 9 or 10 of these. But some I can't find any reference to at all. Anyone ever heard of 'Viking' or 'Red River'??? Thanks everyone! Penny |
January 31, 2010 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: north central B.C.
Posts: 2,310
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Penny, I have seeds of Doublerich if you would like some (could spare about 25), and could also provide a few Pollock. Just send a Tomotomail with your address.
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January 31, 2010 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chillicothe Ohio - left Calif July 2010
Posts: 451
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Check with Amideutch I believe he has grown Flathead Monster
Flathead monster is a PL variant of black Krim found by Dorothy Biesweiger of MT and named after the flathead river in montana Dennis |
January 31, 2010 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 11
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Salix, thanks for such a generous offer. By Tomatomail, do you mean to send you a PM??? I'm still kind of figuring out this site.
mtbigfish, thanks for the info on Flathead Monster. Sounds like a good one to me. I really love black tomatoes. Penny |
January 31, 2010 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: north central B.C.
Posts: 2,310
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Penny, yes that's what I meant, sorry for the confusion. Got your message and will pack up tomorrow and mail Tuesday (barring any blizzard). No trade necessary - just passing on a bit of the generosity that others here have shown.
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January 31, 2010 | #12 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 11
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Thanks salix! I really appreciate it!
Penny |
February 15, 2010 | #13 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Northern MN zone 4a
Posts: 86
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Todd County Amish came from Todd County MN, Staples and Wadena area. That isn't very far from eastern NoDak. I ordered seeds from TGS. This will be my first year trying it.
Did you find any Sheyenne seeds? I ordered mine from WI_Sunflower. Her site link is on TV. Sand Hill Preservation also has them. The varieties developed in Manitoba should be successful I would hope. Great thread for the up north gardeners! Last edited by carpenterlady; February 15, 2010 at 10:53 AM. |
February 15, 2010 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: oc ca.
Posts: 173
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Millets Dakota (available from Victory seed)
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May 28, 2013 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Utah
Posts: 4
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Not Heirlooms
Strictly speaking most of those above are not heirlooms, but early commercial varieties. Heirlooms are selected and passed on by gardeners, not seed companies.
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