Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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February 28, 2010 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: illinois
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tomato staking, what's your favorite?
I was looking on the forum and could not find much information on this topic. How do you stake your tomatoes? Pros and cons of each. I plan on growing a lot of tomatoes around 1500 and around 800 green pepper plants. So I am looking for ideas on being cheap and efficient, but at the same time not increasing the risk of failure too much.
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February 28, 2010 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South Of The Border
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I use 7' metal "T" posts, Tieing the plants with thick twine as they grow. I have a Bobcat so it is easy for me to pull them at the end of each season.
THis works well for me allowing more fruit to get sun exposure and ripen faster.
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February 28, 2010 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mastic, NY
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I don't stake, I cage using reinforced concrete wire cages.
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February 28, 2010 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Wisconsin
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For 2 years, I have tried the "Florida Weave". You can google it, or research it here as I think we have talked about it. It was ok, but didn't hold branches as well as I would have liked soI am thinking of going to big cages or ? Another method I have seen is where there are stakes at the end of the row with a pole in between. Twine is wound up the tomato and attached to the pole. Don't know how this works and how it holds the branches up. I, too, would appreciate people weighing in on their favorite methods. I am planting @50 tomatoes so that would be alot of cages.
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February 28, 2010 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Lilburn GA
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Hi Mich I use 8 ft land scaping timbers for post put 30in. in ground 20 ft. between post.(any type of strong post will work) I put 2 strands of wire post to post(one at 3ft. and one at top. I tie toms to wire as they grow.
Good Luck Bill
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February 28, 2010 | #6 |
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We plant nearly 500 tomatoes so cages would cost a bundle and I would have to store them outside in the weather during the winter. This is why I went to T Posts...
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February 28, 2010 | #7 | |
Tomatovillian™
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I plant hundreds of tomatoes also, and I use cages on everyone that I've made from fencing.(4 ft american wire mostly). I store mine outside with no problems from the weather. Many of mine are thirty years old and still function just fine. I just keep adding to them every year. (not this year as I'm cutting back to about 10% for this year). Camo PS: I got rid of stakes a few years back when I almost put an eye out reaching for a brandywine and ramming my head into a stake I didn't see, which glanced off my glasses and put a hole in my forehead. I pulled every stake in the gardens as soon as I got off the ground and recovered somewhat! |
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February 28, 2010 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zone 9 Texas, Fort Bend County
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I like Florida Weave in theory, but I can get great results using T posts to support 5'x6' stock panels with the 4" squares. I have more options this way for tying the plants up, spacing them on the grid, etc. I like to pinch the suckers until I have one long vine that will hang over the top of the panel and the I like the suckers go wild.
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February 28, 2010 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
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Camo What kind of fenceing?
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March 1, 2010 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: Alabama
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I buy 10' scrap conduit and cut some to around 8 ft and drive into the ground just under 10' apart and run either 2 or 3 of the 10' pieces between them starting about 30" above the ground and holding them in place with 8" wire ties from Harbor Freight. I end up with a trellis that is sturdy enough for the heaviest foliage and I have plenty of places to tie off to. It can be as big or small as you want to make it. For peppers I make the trellis shorter and for tomatoes it is about 6 ft tall.
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March 1, 2010 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
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American wire is the type, also known as cattle fencing. heavy gage top and bottom, lighter in the field. ranges from 6x6 squares on top to 6x3 on the very bottom. It comes in different gauges, so make certain you get a heavy enough gage to hold the weight. usually comes in 330 ft rolls nowadays, and yes they are quite heavy!
Camo Mrs Camo didn't like the fact that CRW was already rusty when you bought it. My 30 year old wire is a little rusty now, but the wire bought the past 5 years is shiny new looking still! You also need an anchoring sytem. I use 12 inch metal tent stakes. Also reuseable year after year. If you vary the amount of squares that you cut wire at, say, 11, 12, 13, you can store cages one inside the other. |
March 1, 2010 | #12 |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: California Central Valley
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Here's one evaluation of different staking methods. Compared to what some people here grow, it was a small trial. I visited the site the year they were doing the trials.
http://www.mastergardeners.org/picks...o_staking.html |
March 1, 2010 | #13 |
Tomatovillian™
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Some other ideas:
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=10927
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March 1, 2010 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: Camp Dix, KY
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If I sound prejudiced, I am. I sell a lot of stakes every year.
http://tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=13279 I have seen the cages used and they work great, but how many feet of wire does it take to make a cage. Cheapest I found from Tractor Supply was "Field Fencing" at $159.00 per roll of 330 ft. Just guessing at about 4 feet that would come to about $2.00 per cage, plus tent stakes. Camo, depreciate the cost over 30 years and that would be the cheapest way to go. Those cages are paying you now. At 53 I am not making many 30 year investments. I am just guessing, by his post, that mich04 is just getting started on this size production and looking at initial cost as well as the end product. 1500 stakes would be $750.00 plus shipping. Cages would be, I need help with exact cost, $3000.00 to $3500.00. Stake maintainence. One thing to give you long life to a wood stake is go to the local rental place and rent a stake puller when you remove them from the ground. Give a few side bends to loosen the stake from the ground, that's when they break. Pulling straight up with a puller does not break near as many. Let them dry in the sun, then smack them against a post or tree to get all the loose dirt off. Wash or dip the stakes in a mild bleach/water solution, dry and store inside a ventilated area, barn works great. Hope this helps, I know a lot more about wood than Tomatoes, except I like them. |
March 1, 2010 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: Brownville, Ne
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I also cage using concrete reinforcing wire. It's cheaper than cattle fencing and has done well for me. They, too, last seemingly forever.
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