Anyone ever grow persimmon tomato?

Vince · June 11, 2006

I just recieved an order of seed through TGS company. They included a pack of persimmon tomato seeds even though I didn't order them. The description says large orange beefsteak type. Has anyone grown this variety? If so is it worth my time to grow it? Space is limited in my garden and this fall or next year I only want to grow really tasty late season varieties. Thanks for the input.

Vince

HeirloomNewb · June 11, 2006

You recieved the free pack of persimmon just like I did. I've read many accounts online of people who consider persimmon one of the tasties if not the tastiest orange heirloom. I'm growing two for the first time and thus far they are doing really well in the garden.

valereee · June 11, 2006

I'm growing Persimmon this year for the first time. I'll report back in July or August.

MtnMaters · June 11, 2006

I received some "Russian Persimmon" in a trade, and have two in my garden, performing rather well too! Does anyone know if this is the same tomato as Persimmon, or an altogether different variety?

feldon30 · June 11, 2006

Dunno about Russian Persimmon, but reg. Persimmon is indeed a huge (1-3lb) orange beefsteak variety. Mild flavor but a good quality tomato. Got to see some at the farmer's market yesterday. I got the free packet from TGS too but I am going to wait until next spring to try 'em.

Vaccinium_Hound · June 12, 2006

Persimmon was one of my faves last year. I wouldn't put it right at the top, but if you're growing 4 or more, I'd make it one of them.

KCMO_Don · June 12, 2006

Out of 30 varieties this year, it is the ONE that I ripped out of the ground.
It looked VERY healthy going in, then got all sick looking and began to spread to neighbors.
Still have KB, and AGG.

**nctomatoman** · June 12, 2006

Persimmon is one of the very first heirlooms I grew, way back in 1987 as I was in the midst of my hybrid to OP conversion. I received it from a New York seed saver (it was an early specialty of Seeds Blum). I can't say it blew me away with its flavor, but the size, productivity and color were very impressive, and I enjoyed eating it (it was quite mild in flavor, and the perfect Cheeseburger tomato!). It is very meaty, few seeds, just a really nice pale orange, oblate, monster! I've only grown it a few times since then, but it did do very well in a pot in my Raleigh driveway a few years ago.

Vince · June 12, 2006

Thanks for the input everybody. I think I'll try one plant next spring. For those who are growingn it this year, keep us posted of what you think about it when your fruits ripen.

Vince

geoguy_TN · June 19, 2006

My (free) persimmon is the hugest plant that I have - >5' tall. It is loaded up with green tomatoes. Hope they taste good because they look great and I will have piles of them from two plants.

HeirloomNewb · June 20, 2006

While I'd say all my plants are looking good the best looking plants in the garden are my persimmons. They have really taken off over the past week. I'm hoping for huge fruit laden plants also

Tomstrees · June 20, 2006

do you guys have an opinion
about which tastes better / productive:

Kelloggs Breakfast vs Persimmon ~

Tom

ps.
I know taste will vary -
but in your opinion ~

grunt · June 21, 2006

Persimmon and Russian persimmon are distinct varieties
(PERSIMMON Ind 12oz to 2 lbs orange 80 days RL
RUSSIAN PERSIMMON Det 3" orange yellow 80 days RL). Distinct difference in taste as well. I prefer the RP, to the point I have 15 plants in the ground now, mostly for juice for the coming winter. Nothing wrong with the taste of P, but RP has it more intensely (personal preference). Either one worth growing more than once, but I'll stick to RP.
Cheers

lumierefrere · June 21, 2006

Grunt, that's good to know as that's exactly what I was told by the person who gave me the seeds for RP. I like the Eastern European types, and I prefer the more moderate size so having a 2nd positive opinion on its taste solidifies my hopes for it.

PNW_D · June 21, 2006

If I recall correctly, Apfelsin = Russian Persimmon

Liked this one last year, orange colour, almost fruity, like a mango. Low fruit production and somewhat late. Not a bulky plant. Blossoms were ‘old gold’ dark inner bit, lighter outside bits. Looks just like a ripe Persimmon

. Lost my picture record in computer crash.

And Andrey’s description (my seed source) orange, indeterminate, juicy, 3-5 fruit in a cluster, productive 140/250/6 – height (cm) weight (gr) production (kilos)

June 11, 2006	#1
Vince Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 942	Anyone ever grow persimmon tomato? I just recieved an order of seed through TGS company. They included a pack of persimmon tomato seeds even though I didn't order them. The description says large orange beefsteak type. Has anyone grown this variety? If so is it worth my time to grow it? Space is limited in my garden and this fall or next year I only want to grow really tasty late season varieties. Thanks for the input. Vince __________________ Vince

June 12, 2006	#7
KCMO_Don Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KANSAS Posts: 223	Out of 30 varieties this year, it is the ONE that I ripped out of the ground. It looked VERY healthy going in, then got all sick looking and began to spread to neighbors. Still have KB, and AGG. __________________ GIGGITY - GIGGITY

June 12, 2006	#8
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	Persimmon is one of the very first heirlooms I grew, way back in 1987 as I was in the midst of my hybrid to OP conversion. I received it from a New York seed saver (it was an early specialty of Seeds Blum). I can't say it blew me away with its flavor, but the size, productivity and color were very impressive, and I enjoyed eating it (it was quite mild in flavor, and the perfect Cheeseburger tomato!). It is very meaty, few seeds, just a really nice pale orange, oblate, monster! I've only grown it a few times since then, but it did do very well in a pot in my Raleigh driveway a few years ago. __________________ Craig

June 12, 2006	#9
Vince Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 942	Thanks for the input everybody. I think I'll try one plant next spring. For those who are growingn it this year, keep us posted of what you think about it when your fruits ripen. Vince __________________ Vince

June 19, 2006	#10
geoguy_TN Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 63	My (free) persimmon is the hugest plant that I have - >5' tall. It is loaded up with green tomatoes. Hope they taste good because they look great and I will have piles of them from two plants. __________________ Place clever signature here

June 11, 2006	#2
HeirloomNewb Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Elwood, IL Posts: 53	You recieved the free pack of persimmon just like I did. I've read many accounts online of people who consider persimmon one of the tasties if not the tastiest orange heirloom. I'm growing two for the first time and thus far they are doing really well in the garden.

June 11, 2006	#3
valereee Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 6a SW Ohio Posts: 135	I'm growing Persimmon this year for the first time. I'll report back in July or August.

June 11, 2006	#4
MtnMaters Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: East TN weedpatch.... I know I planted some tomatoes in here! Posts: 41	I received some "Russian Persimmon" in a trade, and have two in my garden, performing rather well too! Does anyone know if this is the same tomato as Persimmon, or an altogether different variety?

June 11, 2006	#5
feldon30 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,346	Dunno about Russian Persimmon, but reg. Persimmon is indeed a huge (1-3lb) orange beefsteak variety. Mild flavor but a good quality tomato. Got to see some at the farmer's market yesterday. I got the free packet from TGS too but I am going to wait until next spring to try 'em.

June 12, 2006	#6
Vaccinium_Hound Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 19	Persimmon was one of my faves last year. I wouldn't put it right at the top, but if you're growing 4 or more, I'd make it one of them.

June 20, 2006	#11
HeirloomNewb Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Elwood, IL Posts: 53	While I'd say all my plants are looking good the best looking plants in the garden are my persimmons. They have really taken off over the past week. I'm hoping for huge fruit laden plants also

June 20, 2006	#12
Tomstrees Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Bayshore Posts: 3,848	do you guys have an opinion about which tastes better / productive: Kelloggs Breakfast vs Persimmon ~ Tom ps. I know taste will vary - but in your opinion ~ __________________ My green thumb came only as a result of the mistakes I made while learning to see things from the plant's point of view. ~ H. Fred Ale

June 21, 2006	#13
grunt Tomatovillian™ Honoree Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wynndel, B.C., in the Kootenays just above the Idaho panhandle Posts: 35	Persimmon and Russian persimmon are distinct varieties (PERSIMMON Ind 12oz to 2 lbs orange 80 days RL RUSSIAN PERSIMMON Det 3" orange yellow 80 days RL). Distinct difference in taste as well. I prefer the RP, to the point I have 15 plants in the ground now, mostly for juice for the coming winter. Nothing wrong with the taste of P, but RP has it more intensely (personal preference). Either one worth growing more than once, but I'll stick to RP. Cheers __________________ Gonna get it RIGHT this year ... maybe.

June 21, 2006	#14
lumierefrere Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Zone 4 NY Posts: 772	Grunt, that's good to know as that's exactly what I was told by the person who gave me the seeds for RP. I like the Eastern European types, and I prefer the more moderate size so having a 2nd positive opinion on its taste solidifies my hopes for it.

June 21, 2006	#15
PNW_D Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 961	If I recall correctly, Apfelsin = Russian Persimmon Liked this one last year, orange colour, almost fruity, like a mango. Low fruit production and somewhat late. Not a bulky plant. Blossoms were ‘old gold’ dark inner bit, lighter outside bits. Looks just like a ripe Persimmon . Lost my picture record in computer crash. And Andrey’s description (my seed source) orange, indeterminate, juicy, 3-5 fruit in a cluster, productive 140/250/6 – height (cm) weight (gr) production (kilos) __________________ D.