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June 11, 2006 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Discolored Leaf (It's gone downhill) but it's not over? hehe
My CP looks ok but the leaf color seems to be a tad odd.
It may be something totally normal I just don't know, it seems that i have seen disease problems that look like this and i hadn't thought to much about it until i say another plant with similar coloration as it, I do not know what the other plant is as of yet. |
June 11, 2006 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
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How many leaves are you seeing (% wise) that look like that?
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June 11, 2006 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
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It is mostly the top of the plant...The lower leaves look more consistant in color, for all i know it may be sun burn )
I only water in the mornings, We have had a little rain recently but it hardly registered in my rain meter. It has been a week and a half since I fertilized. MG Tomato Food half strength. Trying to think of any info that would confirm a problem or hopefully a lack of one ) I bought this plant and my Cherry from a nursery, the Cherry looks wonderfully healthy. Along with all the seedlings I started. |
June 11, 2006 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
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When I see a leaf like that in *my* garden here in the South (fungus central), I've found that it almost always means the early stages of either septoria leaf spot or early blight.
But a yellow leaf can mean a heck of a lot of different things... in my situation, I'd be reaching for the daconil and/or mancozeb (or rotation of the two). Hard to say at this point what your problem is. Early blight tends to start at the base or center of a plant, septoria can go either way (starting from the top or bottom). |
June 11, 2006 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
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I've never seen blight look like this before, I had it bad last year but aphids have been horrid this year and still fighting to get rid of them.
I went out again and took a look, this discoloration is over half the plant on both. It seems to be easier to see when the sun isn't directly on them like it was earlier today. This is of the other plant, It is one of my mystery plants so have no idea what variety it is. |
June 12, 2006 | #6 | |
Tomatovillian™
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JBinKC,
Quote:
http://vegetablemdonline.ppath.corne...ses_Tomato.htm |
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June 12, 2006 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
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for some reason, none of the cornell sites would open for me. but, I did find another one that has good pics with descriptions of the diseases.
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2217.htm |
June 12, 2006 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
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Thanxs all, I went out to check on them this evening. I'm not seeing any difference in them.
I did see some early blight on one of my plants but not the ones with the discoloration. It isn't looking like much of anything maybe it's a deficiency of some sort...Am continuing to keep a very close eye on them. JB |
June 22, 2006 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
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I had been watching my plants closely, then Sunday I went to check on them and some of the bottom leaves had been yellowing and didn't seem like a huge thing maybe some blight.
Monday I got home from work and went out to check on them and EVERY SINGLE PLANT in my raised bed looks like TSWV from what I have seen ( No fresh maters this year ( |
June 22, 2006 | #10 |
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If the pictures you posted are fairly representative of
what you're seeing on all the plants.... I'm not sure I would classify it as TSWV. Everytime I've seen it, it was almost exclusively on the newer foliage near the top of the plant. And, there was no yellowing of the leaves like yours. I'm not saying that it isn't TSWV, but I wouldn't give up on your plants yet..... Lee (who has another 3 to pull tonight due to TSWV) |
June 22, 2006 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
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JB, TSWV tends to look darker on the leaves -- almost like droplets of ink have been splashed on them.
Did the flash on your camera perhaps wash out the appearance of the spots? |
June 22, 2006 | #12 |
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Agreed with Lee -- don't start pulling plants just yet.
The third picture looks like septoria spot (maybe), the fourth one, I need to think about and look at again later this evening. |
June 22, 2006 | #13 |
Tomatovillian™
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Thank you very much )
That's good to know, the newer foliage isn't like this. But I tried not to jump the gun to much, since they all had signs I figured why bother pulling them. Whatever it is is Fast, Like I said I was seeing some discoloration around the 12th (mottling) But no huge changes over the next week except maybe some yellowing of the lower leaves some possible blight. They were same Sunday and then When I went out Monday I was shocked to see ALL of my plants with allot of black on them (you know now that it has rained it seems some of it is gone) of course it wouldn't wipe off. I had taken one leaf in with me and washed it to see if anything would come off. But the leaves are badly damaged where that was and most of them are dieing. As i said since they all have it not in a hurry to pull them, will just do what i can and see if the fruit shows any problems (if it is a virus I assume that they will) This is the worst part at the base of the plant. |
June 22, 2006 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
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These are just routine questions, ma'am....
Are you spraying with Daconil/Ortho Garden Disease Control or Serenade? Are you watering JUST the soil and not the leaves? Are you watering in the morning so the plants have time to dry? |
June 22, 2006 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
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I really have to start wearing make-up, ya know one of my customers called me sir one day, another customer came to my defense and said sir I think you need glasses (LOL)
Daconil (yes) treatment in mornings so they have time to dry out Soaker hoses (yes) Water in mornings none the less. AND ROFL Feldon Just noticed your editing ) |
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