the blue mystery

the999bbq · July 19, 2010

will it be Blueberry or is it something else (OSU) ... the verdicht

The blue formation is quite uneven among the fruits, some are almost completely blue, some less than half like this one, but the actual proof of the blue pudding is in the eating ;-)

that's how it looks on the inside, not blue, so not blueberry like we thought already. Tastewise ? Not too good, a bit strange aftertaste, but edible. If it is really (even) healthier than normal tomatoes it will do its good in sauces and soups rather than eaten raw...

It is a heavy cropper though, no complaints about that. We are heaving a lot of blossoms dropping this season, so every good cropper has a small advantage this year...

how are your blues doing ??

**nctomatoman** · July 19, 2010

Let's just say I grew it once. Interesting, curious....bit have I grown it again? Not yet! Maybe some year when I want pollen to do some crosses.

**carolyn137** · July 19, 2010

Blueberry is the nickname given to the GMO one being developed in England where a blueberry gene has been bred in for increased anthocyanin content. Absolutely no seeds of that one have been released or let loose as happened with the OSU one.

So what you're growing is the OSU one either OSU Blue itself or one of the selections, poosibly OSU Blue P 20 which has been circulated around.

TomatoDon · July 19, 2010

My favorite characteristic is how well it floats.

gardenfrog · July 19, 2010

Yes, TomatoDon, but does it gently clean with low sudsing?!

bluelytes · July 19, 2010

THE999,
Heres my "Blueberry" from last year. Seem to be similar to yours.

Best;
bluey

Fusion_power · July 19, 2010

Bluey, Just a heads up that P20 blue does NOT have nipples. Your tomato distinctly does.

DarJones

bluelytes · July 19, 2010

DAR,
Ummm, what does that mean then, re: nipples?? Its NOT P20, least near as I know, but then, compared to you I dont know much at all.

Best;
bluey

the999bbq · July 20, 2010

hmm, some of mine have nipples too, but an absolute minority; Is that discriminative for P20 (should they all have it to be P20, or at least one, ... ?)

feldon30 · July 20, 2010

My understanding is they turn blue according to sunlight reception.

The top tomato was picked high up on the plant, the other 2 were picked lower on the plant with more foliage cover.

Tormato · July 20, 2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomatoDon

My favorite characteristic is how well it floats.

I enjoy the levity of this thread.

**carolyn137** · July 20, 2010

Just my opinion but I think it's very confusing for folks to refer to a variety as BLueberry or what they are growing as Blueberry.

No such variety as I pointed out above.

The researchers in England have inserted a gene from a blueberry into another tomato, thus making it a GMO and no seeds are available at all, and no variety name has been given to what they're working on.

So BLueberry, as a variety, does not exist.

The researchers at OSU bred theirs using conventional methods, it is not GMO and several strains of it are out there and in circulation, the P20 being one of them.

No name has been given to the OSU one b'c it has not even been released yet as a fully genetically stable variety.

TomatoDon · July 20, 2010

I'm not sure which category, but this thread is fast becoming a Hall of Famer. A tomato called a blueberry from a variety that doesn't exist, that doesn't have seeds, but does have nipples and defies gravity by floating in thin air, and we have pictures to prove it. This is more rare than the tomato Mark Feron grew under a snow drift in a Wall Of Water that resembled Bigfoot.

And just when I think I've seen it all...

mjc · July 20, 2010

Well, maybe the original poster is growing Blueberry, after all...we KNOW those GMOs can do some pretty wacky things...so defying the law of gravity shouldn't be a problem for them, right?

Fusion_power · July 21, 2010

Carolyn,

There is indeed a variety floating around with the moniker Blueberry - and it is not the GMO from Europe. I have a few seed in my stash and someone sent Bluey seed a couple of years ago. My thought is that it is just another one derived from the OSU stock but possibly crossed to something else and then re-selected. I don't know where it is from. Bluey's pics are consistent for the fruit it produces.

Just a sidenote re breeding with these genes, there is a VERY serious problem with poor flavor in these genetics. I have about 80 segregrating plants from crosses using P20 in my garden this year. So far, I have found 1 very good flavored tomato with high anthocyanin levels and 4 more that are mediocre. IMO, the jury is still out re getting a good flavored tomato with dark fruit color.

DarJones

July 19, 2010	#2
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	Let's just say I grew it once. Interesting, curious....bit have I grown it again? Not yet! Maybe some year when I want pollen to do some crosses. __________________ Craig

July 19, 2010	#3
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Blueberry is the nickname given to the GMO one being developed in England where a blueberry gene has been bred in for increased anthocyanin content. Absolutely no seeds of that one have been released or let loose as happened with the OSU one. So what you're growing is the OSU one either OSU Blue itself or one of the selections, poosibly OSU Blue P 20 which has been circulated around. __________________ Carolyn

July 19, 2010	#4
TomatoDon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MS Posts: 1,523	My favorite characteristic is how well it floats. __________________ Zone 7B, N. MS

July 20, 2010	#12
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Just my opinion but I think it's very confusing for folks to refer to a variety as BLueberry or what they are growing as Blueberry. No such variety as I pointed out above. The researchers in England have inserted a gene from a blueberry into another tomato, thus making it a GMO and no seeds are available at all, and no variety name has been given to what they're working on. So BLueberry, as a variety, does not exist. The researchers at OSU bred theirs using conventional methods, it is not GMO and several strains of it are out there and in circulation, the P20 being one of them. No name has been given to the OSU one b'c it has not even been released yet as a fully genetically stable variety. __________________ Carolyn

July 20, 2010	#13
TomatoDon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MS Posts: 1,523	I'm not sure which category, but this thread is fast becoming a Hall of Famer. A tomato called a blueberry from a variety that doesn't exist, that doesn't have seeds, but does have nipples and defies gravity by floating in thin air, and we have pictures to prove it. This is more rare than the tomato Mark Feron grew under a snow drift in a Wall Of Water that resembled Bigfoot. And just when I think I've seen it all... __________________ Zone 7B, N. MS

July 19, 2010	#5
gardenfrog Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Shelbyville, IN Posts: 343	Yes, TomatoDon, but does it gently clean with low sudsing?!

July 19, 2010	#7
Fusion_power Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,250	Bluey, Just a heads up that P20 blue does NOT have nipples. Your tomato distinctly does. DarJones

July 19, 2010	#8
bluelytes Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 250	DAR, Ummm, what does that mean then, re: nipples?? Its NOT P20, least near as I know, but then, compared to you I dont know much at all. Best; bluey

July 20, 2010	#9
the999bbq Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 191	hmm, some of mine have nipples too, but an absolute minority; Is that discriminative for P20 (should they all have it to be P20, or at least one, ... ?)

July 20, 2010	#14
mjc Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: WV Posts: 603	Well, maybe the original poster is growing Blueberry, after all...we KNOW those GMOs can do some pretty wacky things...so defying the law of gravity shouldn't be a problem for them, right?

July 21, 2010	#15
Fusion_power Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,250	Carolyn, There is indeed a variety floating around with the moniker Blueberry - and it is not the GMO from Europe. I have a few seed in my stash and someone sent Bluey seed a couple of years ago. My thought is that it is just another one derived from the OSU stock but possibly crossed to something else and then re-selected. I don't know where it is from. Bluey's pics are consistent for the fruit it produces. Just a sidenote re breeding with these genes, there is a VERY serious problem with poor flavor in these genetics. I have about 80 segregrating plants from crosses using P20 in my garden this year. So far, I have found 1 very good flavored tomato with high anthocyanin levels and 4 more that are mediocre. IMO, the jury is still out re getting a good flavored tomato with dark fruit color. DarJones