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October 20, 2010 | #1 |
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Wild Boar Farms varieties!
I'm growing five Wild Boar Farms varieties next spring. I would like to plant the more compact plants in beds separate from the taller plants. While the descriptions on the Wild Boar Farms website are informative, plant size information is limited. If you have grown a Wild Boar Farm variety, can you please tell me the variety and give me some information regarding it's plant height?
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October 20, 2010 | #2 |
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Have you tried http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Main_Page ?
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October 20, 2010 | #3 |
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PBTD reached 5' and Haley's Purple Comet is at about 8'.
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October 20, 2010 | #4 | |
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Ted, hope they all work well for you. I thought the flavor and color of Black and Brown Boar was outstanding, but it got sick and had a short life. I want to try more varieties. Who are you buying your seeds from?
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October 20, 2010 | #5 |
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you can get them directly from Wild Boar Farms http://www.wildboarfarms.com/index_1.html
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I buy my seed direct from Wild Boar Farms. I have found them to be very responsive to internet orders. My only complaint would be the fact that they are now mailing their seed in the little plastic zip lock bags instead of small paper envelopes as they did. I don't like the little zip locks for small seed. It is hard to get the seed out of the little zip lock. I am growing the Sweet Carneros Pink this fall and the plant is very tall. I feel sure it would be an eight foot plant if planted in the spring. The tomatoes are still green and I am waiting for some to ripen so I am really curious how they will taste. I think I will have enough eight foot and over plants in my garden to not feel the need to plant the SCP again. It may depend on how the tomato tastes. Black and Brown Boar is one of the varieties I will be growing in the spring. Do you know what caused the demise of your plants. I hope weak, sickly plants is not something in my future with the variety. Ted Last edited by tedln; October 20, 2010 at 04:15 PM. |
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October 20, 2010 | #8 |
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my second post was to inform bigbubbacain of a place to buy seeds. In my first post i recommended that you go to TOMATObase and read the reviews from actual growers.
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October 20, 2010 | #9 |
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Thanks Kath,
I am growing the PBTD in the spring and look forward to it. Since I am growing Black Cherry, I didn't feel the need to grow the Haleys Purple Comet from WBF. In your experience, did you find the HPC to be a good tomato? The website claims the parent of HPC was Cherokee Purple and I am curious if the CP taste carried over. Ted |
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October 20, 2010 | #11 |
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Ted, the reason that height is not typically listed is because all indeterminate varieties (which the vast majority of heirlooms and newer unusually colored creations) will grow until frost, and the height is dependent upon your growing technique. All of the Wild Boar varieties will easily get to 8-10 feet or more by the end of the season, but that is because I am a staker. If caged, they will get as tall as the cage then start flopping down the slides.
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October 20, 2010 | #12 |
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Yep, I have some of those caged 10' foot indeterminate s in my garden right now. I have read some descriptions of some Wild Boar Farm varieties like Black and Brown Boar, which is an indeterminate; as "compact". I think of tomato plants described as compact, to be under 6' tall even at the end of a growing season. While Barlow Jap is not a WBF variety, it is an indeterminate which is usually described as 4-6 feet tall. That is compact to me.
If I plant "compact" plants between normal indeterminate s, they may get shaded out by the taller plants. Ted |
October 20, 2010 | #13 |
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I've not really met a compact indeterminate yet, despite the descriptions of such....I think the health warning on height descriptions is the variance seen as different people grow them in different ways in different seasons. Even Rutgers, for me, goes over 6 feet tall in my garden. I don't have the dawn to dusk, full sun that keeps plants more under height control.
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October 20, 2010 | #14 |
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Ted, there are some folks like me who couldn't tell you the height of ANY indeterminate variety I've grown b'c the majority of my tomatoes over the years have been grown in fields by sprawling.
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October 20, 2010 | #15 |
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There are indeterminates that don't get nearly as large as most. Old Virginia fell into that category for me; when the plant was six months old it was only about 5 ft tall and 7 ft wide on my trellis. My Gary O' Sena planted on the same day was over 10 ft tall and extended out on the trellis over 16 feet in width. It ended up taking over the trellis space from the Kosovo and Gregori's Altai that were planted 6 feet on either side of it.
I would say Kosovo and Donskoi were relatively compact when compared to monsters like Linnies Oxheart. Indian Stripe did not get really big until it was 7 months old. I think we need some kind of standard like measuring them at 3 months after set out or something like that. That way everyone would at least be on the same page when describing plant size. I have noticed that some plants get really large quickly and if those varieties live long enough they get huge and other varieties that only get big after a very long growing season. |
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