Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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November 20, 2010 | #1 |
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Danko
I noticed Sandhill Preservation listed Danko as a semi-determinate. Does Danko set fruit right up until frost, or does it just set fruit once and stop producing?
Approximately how tall do the plants grow (what size of cage would I need)? Which would be more productive for making pasta sauce: Danko or Sarnowski Polish Plum? |
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Yes, it can and does set fruits up to frost, atleastfor me where I live. I have no idea how tall the plants get b'c I sprawl all of my tomato plants. Which would be more productive between Danko, and Sarnowski Polish Plum, another variety I introduced? Production-wise Sarnoski, taste wise, Danko. So make a sauce with some of each and you've got a winner. Here's Tania's page for Danko: http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Danko THe picture shown on that page does not accurately depict Danko, IMO. It's not a heart with an acute tip, rather, more of a blunt tip such as Wes. I'm pretty sure I'll be again offering Danko seeds here in my seed offer, but not Sarnowski Polish Plum b'c I have been offering them here but now I think they're too old to distribute seeds for them. http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/S...ki_Polish_Plum Above is Tania's Sarnowski page. As for seed sources, Tania tries to keep up but with thousands of varieties featured it's almost impossible to do. For instance, I see Victory seeds listed for Danko, but just went there and don't see it, although it was there. Probably not good seed production is the reason.
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November 20, 2010 | #3 |
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Danko: got to about 3' growing in a trellis. Weak stems,
clusters with extreme numbers of flowers, although they did not set significantly more fruit for the plant than the Kardinal plant (same size plant) right next to it that had more normal numbers of flowers per cluster. It was a fairly cool year, so I could not get a good idea of what production potential might be for Danko in someplace with warmer summers.
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November 20, 2010 | #4 |
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I grew Danko for the first time this year and they grew a little more than three foot on trellised against a cattle panel.
I also had a tremedous amount of flowers early but the our temperature here in St Louis jumped up from the mid 80's to the high 90's and stayed there for a week. I only ended up getting six or so tomatos and they never produced another flower for the remainder of the year. I'll try them again next year. |
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November 21, 2010 | #6 |
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I really had high hopes when I saw all those flowers but I think the jump in temperature happened at absolutely the wrong time for me.
At least for me last year, Danko definitely acted as a determinate because I never saw any more flowers the rest of the season. Now Kosovo was one of my better producing tomatos this year although it got fairly big. |
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I didn't grow Danko this past season, but when I've grown it in the past it has blossomed and produced fruits all season. The old adage is that determinates produce one flush of fruits and that's it. But I've seen folks post about some determinates they grow that do produce all season, so I don't equate plant habit det with just one flush of fruits.
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November 21, 2010 | #8 |
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When I started growing tomatoes, the first variety I grew was Celebrity. Most places list it as a determinate (a few list as SD). The first fruit set was the largest, but the plants always produced tomatoes right up until frost for me.
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November 21, 2010 | #9 |
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Determinate describes a growth pattern relative to the number of internodes between flowerings, and the eventual termination of every shoot with a flower cluster. How long it takes the entire plant to cease successive shoot production and termination is a function of the individual variety's genetics, and often leads some growers to look for other definitions for a long lived variety that in fact is a determinate tomato.
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