Ramapo growth habit?

[jeffinjonestown]

Barkeater was nice enough to send me some of his F6 Ramapo seeds. can anyone give me a good description of the growth habit of the plants, such as maximum size, and recommend sizes for containers and supports for them? I was guessing that the 8 gallon pots and 5 ft supports that I use for the Rutgers would suffice, but I've seen such a range of possible sizes and girths of Ramapo plants on different websites that now I'm not sure. I could move them up to 18 gallon pots if I have to, and also have 15 gallon 1 ft by 2 ft rectangular containers (that I usually double up smaller peppers and eggplants in), if either of those would be better.

I really want to save these seeds successfully and not mess this up.

[No football games I really want to watch today, so I figured I'd start prepping the deck for spring.]

[Ruth_10]

For me, Ramapo F6 was a pretty large plant, much bigger than Rutgers. I haven't grown them in containers, but based on my own experience with them I would tilt toward large containers and large supports.

[b54red]

I grew Ramapo F1 and Rutgers this year. The Ramapo was larger than Rutgers but not much taller. It was just more vigorous with a much bushier plant. Why don't you try one in each and see? I have seven foot tall trellises and never got to tie any branches off to the top bar with either variety.

[barkeater]

Actually I believe Ramapo is listed as a semi determinate. I will check the packet when I get home. Anyway, I've grown them enough to tell you the growth habit. I cage almost all tomatoes I grow, and Ramapo is not tall but it is extremely bushy and dense like a shrub. It grows about 4 1/2' high. I cage most indeterminates like Brandywine and Black Cherry by planting four 8' stakes a foot deep and two feet apart in a square wrapping them with twine and they all grow up and over the top, and it is easy to see and reach all the tomatoes in the cage. The same setup for Ramapo you can't see through the dense foliage so I always set the stakes for them wider than 2 feet and I just use six foot posts for the cages.

[jeffinjonestown]

Thank you for the responses. I'm going to conclude three things in light of what has been said. First, if the root structure is big like the foliage spread, the big pots it is. Second, my brandy setups are a lot like Barkeater's, except with three stakes in a triangle. I'll shorten the stakes and widen the structures. Third, since they are listed as semi determinate, I'll grow them in the early season in the sunroom and start the Rutgers a little late since they produced for me up to hard frost this year.