My 2011 is less than 2010

matermaniac · January 29, 2011

I hope I learned a lesson from last year and will not be growing as much. At least that is the plan for now because full time work and full time school does not mix well with a garden. I started seeds on Jan 14 for the tomatoeswhile some hot peppers were started in December and are doing ok. In fact, the Yellow Trinidad Sorpion is already beginning to bud and Thai hots have peppers that should be ready in amonth or so.

My tomato list.

Black Cherry
Purple Russian
Fargo
Mortgage Lifter
Jersey Devil
Opalka
Isis Candy Cherry
White Ice Cherry
Aunt Ruby's German Green
German Stripe
Eva Purple Ball
Cherokee Purple
Japanese Black Trifle

Tomatillo
Purple Tomatillo

All of the tomatoes will be in raised beds. I'm still deciding on what to do with onions, potato, peppers, peas, beans and so on. I hope to have it all sorted out by the end of February.

newatthiskat · January 29, 2011

Great list. Am going to grow several of those myself. I really enjoyed Isis candy when I grew it. Pretty little tomato. Am excited to grow purple russian this time. Looks like you are covering all different colors an several types. Good luck with the garden!
Kat

matermaniac · January 29, 2011

germination rates as of 24 Jan

Black Cherry - 60% 2009 seed stock
Purple Russian - 100% 2010
Fargo - 67% 2009
Mortgage Lifter - 73% 2009
Jersey Devil- 100% 2010
Opalka - 70% 2010
Isis Candy Cherry - 100% 2010
White Ice Cherry - 90% 2010
Aunt Ruby's German Green - 100% 2010
German Stripe - 100% 2010
Eva Purple Ball - 100% 2009
Cherokee Purple - 100% 2009
Japanese Black Trifle - planted 24 Jan
Purple Tomatillo - 100% 2009

I spent some time this evening moving some of the pepper plants out from the house and into the greenhouse under grow lights. Some of the different peppers did not take well to the extra light and began to wilt very quickly. They were covered in some weed fabric to block some light in hopes they will turn around in a few days. I hope so because some of these are difficult to germinate.

barefootgardener · January 30, 2011

You have a great list of tomatoes matermaniac..And I love Purple Tomatillos! They always do well for me! I eat them fresh from the vine as they are sweeter than reg. tomatillos..

Good luck w/your peppers..I hope your babies perked back up for you!

matermaniac · February 19, 2011

So far, everything is coming along great. The only thing to note so far is an irregularity with the Black Krim seedlings. There is a Potato Leaf something coming up. Maybe it's a cross or a stray seed? It won't be anytime soon before we find out what is going on there.

SilverCat · February 19, 2011

I had a PL Black Krim plant last year, commercial seed, but the heat killed it before it set fruit.

matermaniac · February 20, 2011

hopefully the heat wont kill this plant. I'm interested tosee what comes of it. I think my seeds were labeled by brand name "Botanical Interests"

barefootgardener · February 20, 2011

Looking good matermaniac!

SilverCat · February 20, 2011

I started mine waaay too late last year, was the problem-- really wanted to see what came of it

IIRC the seed was from Trade Winds Fruit.

Compliments on the beautiful seedlings

dice · February 21, 2011

If it is a chance cross with Black Krim, it would have to be an
F2 or later plant (an F1 of Black Krim x Unknown PL would be
RL).

b54red · February 22, 2011

I had a potato leaf Indian Stripe last year and saved the seed hoping it will be stable. The seed are up now but haven't put on true leaves yet so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Good Luck with the potato leaf Black Krim.

matermaniac · February 23, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by dice

If it is a chance cross with Black Krim, it would have to be an
F2 or later plant (an F1 of Black Krim x Unknown PL would be
RL).

If it is a cross, at what F would it normally be considered stable? Or is it purely a matter of when it becomes stable?

dice · February 23, 2011

Quote:

If it is a cross, at what F would it normally be considered stable?

That varies with how many gene pairs the parent cultivars had
in common. See

http://kdcomm.net/~tomato/gene/genes.html
http://kdcomm.net/~tomato/gene/genes2.html

February 23, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by dice

That varies with how many gene pairs the parent cultivars had
in common. See

http://kdcomm.net/~tomato/gene/genes.html
http://kdcomm.net/~tomato/gene/genes2.html

Thanks for the links Dice. In my opinion they should be made a sticky. There are so many that want to know the basics but are afraid to ask for whatever reasons.

matermaniac · March 4, 2011

I picked up two loads of well horse manure today to incorporate into the beds. They are mostly made up of horse manure, mushroom compost chicken manure and some topsoil. Last week I took the tiller through the beds and dug down a good 6 inches into the topsoil that I simply covered last year. Today,I extended to the two 30ft rows another five feet. Next week I will more than likely dig another 30 plus foot row to accomodate everything. By the end of the month I have to have the beds completed and the drip irrigation installed. No excuses this time.

This is why I say no excuses. I am quickly running out of room to keep everything. They will be going outside every day the weather is nice.

January 29, 2011	#1
matermaniac Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Slightly North of Charleston, SC Posts: 114	My 2011 is less than 2010 I hope I learned a lesson from last year and will not be growing as much. At least that is the plan for now because full time work and full time school does not mix well with a garden. I started seeds on Jan 14 for the tomatoeswhile some hot peppers were started in December and are doing ok. In fact, the Yellow Trinidad Sorpion is already beginning to bud and Thai hots have peppers that should be ready in amonth or so. My tomato list. Black Cherry Purple Russian Fargo Mortgage Lifter Jersey Devil Opalka Isis Candy Cherry White Ice Cherry Aunt Ruby's German Green German Stripe Eva Purple Ball Cherokee Purple Japanese Black Trifle Tomatillo Purple Tomatillo All of the tomatoes will be in raised beds. I'm still deciding on what to do with onions, potato, peppers, peas, beans and so on. I hope to have it all sorted out by the end of February.

January 29, 2011	#2
newatthiskat Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: texas Posts: 1,451	Reply Great list. Am going to grow several of those myself. I really enjoyed Isis candy when I grew it. Pretty little tomato. Am excited to grow purple russian this time. Looks like you are covering all different colors an several types. Good luck with the garden! Kat

February 21, 2011	#10
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	If it is a chance cross with Black Krim, it would have to be an F2 or later plant (an F1 of Black Krim x Unknown PL would be RL). __________________ -- alias

March 4, 2011	#15
matermaniac Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Slightly North of Charleston, SC Posts: 114	I picked up two loads of well horse manure today to incorporate into the beds. They are mostly made up of horse manure, mushroom compost chicken manure and some topsoil. Last week I took the tiller through the beds and dug down a good 6 inches into the topsoil that I simply covered last year. Today,I extended to the two 30ft rows another five feet. Next week I will more than likely dig another 30 plus foot row to accomodate everything. By the end of the month I have to have the beds completed and the drip irrigation installed. No excuses this time. This is why I say no excuses. I am quickly running out of room to keep everything. They will be going outside every day the weather is nice. Last edited by matermaniac; March 4, 2011 at 11:03 PM.

January 30, 2011	#4
barefootgardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Michigan Zone 4b Posts: 1,291	You have a great list of tomatoes matermaniac..And I love Purple Tomatillos! They always do well for me! I eat them fresh from the vine as they are sweeter than reg. tomatillos.. Good luck w/your peppers..I hope your babies perked back up for you!

February 19, 2011	#5
matermaniac Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Slightly North of Charleston, SC Posts: 114	So far, everything is coming along great. The only thing to note so far is an irregularity with the Black Krim seedlings. There is a Potato Leaf something coming up. Maybe it's a cross or a stray seed? It won't be anytime soon before we find out what is going on there.

February 19, 2011	#6
SilverCat Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: MS Posts: 5	I had a PL Black Krim plant last year, commercial seed, but the heat killed it before it set fruit.

February 20, 2011	#7
matermaniac Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Slightly North of Charleston, SC Posts: 114	hopefully the heat wont kill this plant. I'm interested tosee what comes of it. I think my seeds were labeled by brand name "Botanical Interests"

February 22, 2011	#11
b54red Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,068	I had a potato leaf Indian Stripe last year and saved the seed hoping it will be stable. The seed are up now but haven't put on true leaves yet so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Good Luck with the potato leaf Black Krim.