Give away offer, Casino Chips, A true cherry paste tomato

casino · February 7, 2011

Sorry but the seed offer is now closed. I had 30 requests in 6 hours, wow. I have enough seed to fill all the requests and to those who are getting the seeds ENJOY and happy gardening.

Hi everyone: I have a true Italian cherry paste tomato that I would like to share with TV members. I grew it myself, and here is the story.

My Italian neighbor Pat Cici was born and raised in a small town called Casino, Italy. Pat Cici came to the USA when he was a teenager and in one of his pant pockets he had his familys paste tomato seed and in the other pocket he had the familys Italian roasting pepper seeds. Pat Cici is now in his 70's. There is no name for this Italian paste tomato but since we have been sharing the seed with people we had to name it and we are calling this big Italian paste tomato "Casino" after Pat Cici's home town in Italy.

Now we get to the cherry tomato:
A few years ago Pat Cici noticed a sport on one of his tomato plants. It grew a branch that had 6 cherry tomatoes on it. We ate 2 cherries and they were identical in taste to the mother plant except these were cherries. Well Pat saved the seed and we grew them out. All the plants had perfect cherries. This is an OP variety that is rock solid stable. it is a true paste tomato. great eaten fresh and makes fabulous sauce. Indeterminate, tall plant 8 feet plus, and huge, huge production and the cherries almost never crack. This should be a great plant for breeding. We call this cherry "Casino Chips" (a chip off the old block) a personal favorite.

If you want some seeds "Casino Chips" send me a PM and a SASE and I will send seeds to the first 25 people. Its one of my favorites so I have plenty of seed. I dont have seeds to the original paste tomato called "Casino" Im out, but I will have more seed next year. I dont need to trade. If you want some Casino Chips, just ask.
Joe

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Linda10 · February 7, 2011

I'm asking, Joe

. I'll PM you with my address and thank you.

ContainerTed · February 7, 2011

PM sent. I think I would like to try this one.

Ted

frankkj · February 7, 2011

I want some. I'll get a SASE in the mail tomorrow if you will PM me your address.

Frank

**carolyn137** · February 7, 2011

Well, I can't send you an SASE with the PM you asked for, so how about my Pming you for your address and then I can send you an SASE.

What you describe that happened that turned a paste shape into a cherry is called a somatic mutation, one where the mutation occurs in the DNA of a plant cell and not in the seed DNA. I've been lucky enough to see two of them, one was with Green Gage and the other with an italian variety called Dix Doight de Naples where one branch had totally different shaped fruits than what would be normal for the variety.

With the Green Gage, which is yellow when ripe, one branch had red fruits. And the variety Yellow Risesntraube came about b'c there was ONE yellow fruit on a plant that otherwise had normal red fruits.

I would expect your cherry to have the same taste as the paste it came from as you noted, just a shape change, but that begs the question of what you thought of the taste of the paste itself since most aren't known for great fresh eating taste.

Yeager31 · February 7, 2011

Hi Joe,

I would love to be included in your offer.

Anthony

barefootgardener · February 7, 2011

Sounds great, sending PM.. Thank you for the offer

matilda'skid · February 7, 2011

I sent you a message. It sounds interesting.

MikeInCypress · February 7, 2011

Sending a PM. Please count me in. Thank you.

MikeInCypress

rscott6121 · February 7, 2011

Sent you a pm want to try in Oklahoma

Qweniden · February 7, 2011

PM sent. Thanks

Timbotide · February 7, 2011

PM sent. Thank you.

walkinggin · February 7, 2011

PM sent. I hope I'm not too late!

Ginny

dokutaaguriin · February 7, 2011

PM sent. I hope I can try some of this variety as it sounds very interesting.
Jeff

dustdevil · February 7, 2011

Hi. PM sent. Thanks. Dust

February 7, 2011	#1
casino Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Southfield, Michigan Posts: 318	Give away offer, Casino Chips, A true cherry paste tomato Sorry but the seed offer is now closed. I had 30 requests in 6 hours, wow. I have enough seed to fill all the requests and to those who are getting the seeds ENJOY and happy gardening. Hi everyone: I have a true Italian cherry paste tomato that I would like to share with TV members. I grew it myself, and here is the story. My Italian neighbor Pat Cici was born and raised in a small town called Casino, Italy. Pat Cici came to the USA when he was a teenager and in one of his pant pockets he had his familys paste tomato seed and in the other pocket he had the familys Italian roasting pepper seeds. Pat Cici is now in his 70's. There is no name for this Italian paste tomato but since we have been sharing the seed with people we had to name it and we are calling this big Italian paste tomato "Casino" after Pat Cici's home town in Italy. Now we get to the cherry tomato: A few years ago Pat Cici noticed a sport on one of his tomato plants. It grew a branch that had 6 cherry tomatoes on it. We ate 2 cherries and they were identical in taste to the mother plant except these were cherries. Well Pat saved the seed and we grew them out. All the plants had perfect cherries. This is an OP variety that is rock solid stable. it is a true paste tomato. great eaten fresh and makes fabulous sauce. Indeterminate, tall plant 8 feet plus, and huge, huge production and the cherries almost never crack. This should be a great plant for breeding. We call this cherry "Casino Chips" (a chip off the old block) a personal favorite. If you want some seeds "Casino Chips" send me a PM and a SASE and I will send seeds to the first 25 people. Its one of my favorites so I have plenty of seed. I dont have seeds to the original paste tomato called "Casino" Im out, but I will have more seed next year. I dont need to trade. If you want some Casino Chips, just ask. Joe P1010450.JPG P1010452.JPG Last edited by casino; February 7, 2011 at 08:23 PM. Reason: the free seed offer is now closed

February 7, 2011	#2
Linda10 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brush Prairie, WA Posts: 925	I'm asking, Joe. I'll PM you with my address and thank you. __________________ Linda10

February 7, 2011	#3
ContainerTed Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 6a - NE Tennessee Posts: 4,538	PM sent. I think I would like to try this one. Ted __________________ Ted ________________________ Owner & Sole Operator Of The Muddy Bucket Farm and Tomato Ranch

February 7, 2011	#4
frankkj Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 90	Casion seeds I want some. I'll get a SASE in the mail tomorrow if you will PM me your address. Frank __________________ Old and Wise? Or maybe just getting old?

February 7, 2011	#5
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Well, I can't send you an SASE with the PM you asked for, so how about my Pming you for your address and then I can send you an SASE. What you describe that happened that turned a paste shape into a cherry is called a somatic mutation, one where the mutation occurs in the DNA of a plant cell and not in the seed DNA. I've been lucky enough to see two of them, one was with Green Gage and the other with an italian variety called Dix Doight de Naples where one branch had totally different shaped fruits than what would be normal for the variety. With the Green Gage, which is yellow when ripe, one branch had red fruits. And the variety Yellow Risesntraube came about b'c there was ONE yellow fruit on a plant that otherwise had normal red fruits. I would expect your cherry to have the same taste as the paste it came from as you noted, just a shape change, but that begs the question of what you thought of the taste of the paste itself since most aren't known for great fresh eating taste. __________________ Carolyn

February 7, 2011	#6
Yeager31 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rocky Point, NC Posts: 13	Hi Joe, I would love to be included in your offer. Anthony

February 7, 2011	#7
barefootgardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Michigan Zone 4b Posts: 1,291	Sounds great, sending PM.. Thank you for the offer

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matilda'skid Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 309	I sent you a message. It sounds interesting.

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MikeInCypress Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 963	Sending a PM. Please count me in. Thank you. MikeInCypress __________________ "Growing older, not up"

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rscott6121 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: S.E. Oklahoma Posts: 13	Sent you a pm want to try in Oklahoma

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Qweniden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 267	PM sent. Thanks

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Timbotide Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northport Alabama Posts: 304	PM sent. Thank you.

February 7, 2011	#13
walkinggin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 196	PM sent. I hope I'm not too late! Ginny

February 7, 2011	#14
dokutaaguriin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alberta, Canada Z3a Posts: 905	PM sent. I hope I can try some of this variety as it sounds very interesting. Jeff

February 7, 2011	#15
dustdevil Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: WI, USA Zone4 Posts: 1,887	Hi. PM sent. Thanks. Dust