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Old April 22, 2011   #1
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Default Is anyone growing STICK?

If so, which version? How far along are they now?
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Old April 23, 2011   #2
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If so, which version? How far along are they now?
Have gorwn it Mark, but once was enough to enjoy the novelty of this variety.

Seeds for it can give two versions, one with the poodle bunches of foliage along the main stalk as originally described and one version where those bunches don't appear and the leaves look more normal.

I just tried to find some of the back threads where in at least one of them pictures of both versions were shown.

A lingering memory is that it was Dukerdog who posted those pictures so if he sees this thread of yours perhaps he or someone else has pictures to show of both versions.

I can't answer your last question as to how far along they are b'c my so called Stick experience was several years ago.
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4 inches is the tallest

Here is is early.....on right

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Here's a pic from today

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Not growing it this year, usually grow it every two or three years if I have a need for an ornamental tomato (this year's ornamental is Variegated.)

I got my seed from a Tville member about 6 years ago, and what I have seems to consistently throw about 80% true poodle type leaves and about 20% regular leaves. I see no need to save the RL's since I grew one out one year and it had small poor flavor fruit.

I think it's a fun quirky plant to grow, but only for the novelty. Wish someone would cross it with a MicroTom so I could have teeny-tiny poodle plants for a window box.
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Not growing it this year, usually grow it every two or three years if I have a need for an ornamental tomato (this year's ornamental is Variegated.)

I got my seed from a Tville member about 6 years ago, and what I have seems to consistently throw about 80% true poodle type leaves and about 20% regular leaves. I see no need to save the RL's since I grew one out one year and it had small poor flavor fruit.

I think it's a fun quirky plant to grow, but only for the novelty. Wish someone would cross it with a MicroTom so I could have teeny-tiny poodle plants for a window box.
Can't help myself here but I think I'd rather have a canine miniature Poodle than a micro-faux poodle for a window box.
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Can't help myself here but I think I'd rather have a canine miniature Poodle than a micro-faux poodle for a window box.
But I suspect your cats would beg to differ!
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Carolyn...you have plenty of Catnip?
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The cats might be delighted. Cats have a strong prey drive...
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Carolyn & all: I was referring to the 2 different types of fruits, mainly green color.

One is typical pale green fruits, the other is dark green fruits. Two different accession #s.

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Carolyn & all: I was referring to the 2 different types of fruits, mainly green color.

One is typical pale green fruits, the other is dark green fruits. Two different accession #s.

Mark, I Don't know where you got your two accessions from but I've seen a lot of folks who show pictures of their Stick plants and fruits and you're the first one who has ever said anything at all about two different colored immature fruits.

What were your two sources?
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The cats might be delighted. Cats have a strong prey drive...
About my two cat kids. YEs Earl there's catnp here, in bags for them to toss around and loose for me to sprinkle on a newspaper for them to roll around on and act silly. And I used to grow some catnip for my two previous cat kids as well.

Dee, I don't know how my cat kids would feel about a doggie here but based on how they are chased by the dog who lives up the road and gets off her leash and heads down here from time to time, I don't think they'd be happy. They had my one cat cornered on the deck and it's about a 30 ft drop off the deck to the base of the waterfall below and I got out there ASAP and managed to shoo off the dog. She's a good dog, don't get me wrong, but goes bonkers when allowed to run free, and there is a leash law here even though I'm in the boonies.
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That's the problem I'm having--identification. I had actually THREE different sources--Charlie's place (so as not to advertise so they won't be bombarded with requests but many know what I mean anyway), USDA & David Pendergrass. I have all the #s somewhere but don't remember which are which color.
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Dee & Earl, do you remember what the unripe looked like? Earl, have you grown it before? Dee, is your variegated the one Carolyn had? I'm growing my dwarf variegated to build up some seed stock.
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Dee & Earl, do you remember what the unripe looked like? Earl, have you grown it before? Dee, is your variegated the one Carolyn had? I'm growing my dwarf variegated to build up some seed stock.
Now, I'm confused.

Stick is not variegated in any way. I think Dee was probably referring to the variey Variegata as her novelty plant of the season.

Mark, my Stick had no variegation of foliage or fruits, and shouldn't. All fruits were typical green when immature and red when ripe.

As to your seed sources, Gleckler's was the first to offer Stick a couple of decades ago, and that's how it got into the USDA or the reverse. And there have been several sources for Stick so I'm not sure why you went back to the USDA.

I don't know who Charlie is and I do know David and I have no idea what the source of their seeds for Stick was although I assume that David's was from Mike at Victory seed b'c of their present/past association.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Stick

As you can see there have been several sources for Stick in the past several years and Adam Gleckler is back offering it as his father did before him. As I said above, Gleckler's was the first to offer Stick commercially many years ago.

While some refer to it as a Dwarf, according to the traits of a Dwarf that Craig has discussed in the Dwarf project I'm afraid I don't see it as a typical Dwarf and if truth be told I don't remember the foliage as being Rugose either, but then my memory is no longer perfect, what a surprise.
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