reverend morrow's long keeper

[phantom_white]

I'll be growing around 20 Rev. Morrow's plants this year and had a couple questions that I need answered before I decide where to plant them.
1. RM is a determinate plant, so will it need staking/caging?
2. How far apart should I space them since they are more of a bush type plant? I know it really depends on how good the soil is, how much water the plants get, ect. I was thinking maybe 2 feet apart? Does that sound like enough space?
3. Does this variety produce an average number of seeds per fruit? The whole reason I'm growing this variety is for seed production, so let's say I need 7 ounces of seeds- would 20 plants be enough to give me close to that amount?

I've never grown determinate toms before so I don't really know what to expect from them...

Thanks for any help,
Abby

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by phantom_white

I'll be growing around 20 Rev. Morrow's plants this year and had a couple questions that I need answered before I decide where to plant them.
1. RM is a determinate plant, so will it need staking/caging?
2. How far apart should I space them since they are more of a bush type plant? I know it really depends on how good the soil is, how much water the plants get, ect. I was thinking maybe 2 feet apart? Does that sound like enough space?
3. Does this variety produce an average number of seeds per fruit? The whole reason I'm growing this variety is for seed production, so let's say I need 7 ounces of seeds- would 20 plants be enough to give me close to that amount?

I've never grown determinate toms before so I don't really know what to expect from them...

Thanks for any help,
Abby

I'm seeing a Reverand Morrow's Peach variety listed in the 2011 SSE Yearbook, described as light red and a longkeeper. Two folks list it but the one says indet, not det, and fruits about 3 oz.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...7s_Long_Keeper

Tania has no data other than the fact that both SESE and Baker Creek list it. What do they say about it as to plant habit and fruit size?

Do any of the above make sense to what you have and the only reason I ask is b'c if the fruits are only about 3 oz, and aren't a bag of seeds you'd have to grow a heck of a lot of plants to get about a half pound of seeds since there's about 12,000 seeds, on average, to a pound of tomato seeds.

[phantom_white]

Both Baker Creek and SESE list it as a 6-10oz determinate plant that is a good producer of reddish orange fruits- neither have pics, just the description. I got my seeds from SESE as part of their growout program and am using those seeds for my stock.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by phantom_white

Both Baker Creek and SESE list it as a 6-10oz determinate plant that is a good producer of reddish orange fruits- neither have pics, just the description. I got my seeds from SESE as part of their growout program and am using those seeds for my stock.

OK, so you're acting as a seed subcontractor to SESE.

Taking the difference between 6 to 10 oz fruits as being an average of 8 oz fruits one would normally get maybe a couple of hundred seeds max from each fruit, but I don't know how juicy they are and that also feeds into seed counts and being longkeepers they probably have more dense flesh so that would lower the seed count, usually.

Do you feel comfortable asking someone there what their advice might be since I know they do a lot of their own seed production.

[phantom_white]

I could shoot an email their way and ask. It sometimes takes a while for a response so I thought maybe someone here could give me some insight sooner. I wanted to get them planted soon, but with the tremendous amounts of rain we're getting it may be some time before the plants get in the ground.

[Stepheninky]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

I'm seeing a Reverand Morrow's Peach variety listed in the 2011 SSE Yearbook, described as light red and a longkeeper. Two folks list it but the one says indet, not det, and fruits about 3 oz.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...7s_Long_Keeper

Tania has no data other than the fact that both SESE and Baker Creek list it. What do they say about it as to plant habit and fruit size?

Do any of the above make sense to what you have and the only reason I ask is b'c if the fruits are only about 3 oz, and aren't a bag of seeds you'd have to grow a heck of a lot of plants to get about a half pound of seeds since there's about 12,000 seeds, on average, to a pound of tomato seeds.

That should read about 12,000 seeds to an Oz not pound unless I am missing something. I figured that what was meant just clearing up for people that do not know that.

I would say an OZ is about 10,000 -12,000 usually just depends on the seed size

[tomakers]

Just thinking about this a little. I have produced 14 gms(1/2 oz) from 2 plants(cherries), quite easily. You need 14*that = 28. 30 plants would seem to be closer, just in case.
Just a guess, and maybe the cherries produced more seeds????? And maybe I got lucky???
JMO,
Tom

[carolyn137]

My error, yes, about 12,000 seeds/oz, not pound.

And yes, cherries do have more seeds in my experience, lots more seeds, and again, I do think that longkeeper varieties have much more dense flesh related to storage, so probably less seeds.