New Releases from Tom Wagner

[amideutch]

New World Seeds and Tubers just released some more of Tom Wagner's tomato Varieties as of March 1st. Ami

http://newworldcrops.com/wp/shop/2012-tomatoes/

[casino]

thanks ami for the tip, I was not aware of this web site.
Next year I will keep my eye out for the helsing ★★★★★★★★ blues

[gardengalrn]

Very interesting, I hadn't looked at that site before, either. What does he mean by a "blue" tomato? Could anyone point me to some pictures? I'm excited to look at his potato varieties, I remember him talking about varieties back when this forum first started out. Thanks, Ami

[Tom Wagner]

I will be listing new varieties of blue tomatoes on the website...Muddy Waters is but one of the latest.

As far as blue tomatoes go....here is one of my blues....note the prostrate vine growing flat against the ground....that allows the sun to really mediate the blue coloring.

[loeb]

Looks navy blue which one is it? I have an other questions: what is the taste of Muddy Waters and Golden Crabapple, and I would like to know something more about Papa's Pick.. for what use it is designed? I'm not familiar with american varietes so the name-game is a bit hard for me to decode

[Tom Wagner]

Looks navy blue ...which one is it? I have an other questions: what is the taste of Muddy Waters and Golden Crabapple, and I would like to know something more about Papa's Pick.. for what use it is designed? I'm not familiar with American varieties so the name-game is a bit hard for me to decode

Fair enough questions. One of the frustrations I have with blue tomatoes is that they look so blue when immature but less so when ripe. The red flesh of most blues gives a more purple/brown hue when the fruit are ripe.

When I first started selecting segregants...yes that is a word...meaning genetic segregate.....out of my Searching For The Blue Zebra F-2 population...I made up a name for a black/brown flesh line that had blue mediated surface pigments. It had blue stripes while immature but the strips became more muddy blue when ripe.
The selection process continued for another generation (filial) and as luck had it...the segregation of the black/brown flesh went to green flesh. So imagine a muddy blue stripe on a green flesh tomato...

I named it MUDDY WATERS because of my early life near the Missouri River near Atchison, Kansas.

The Missouri is known to many as the Big Muddy, referring to the river's typically brown water, especially in its lower reaches.

Add to the fact that excessive fertilizer run off contributes a greening effect from the growth of algae...and the Big Muddy becomes the Big Muddy Green!

Muddy Waters, was an American blues musician. And note the word blues? My naming convention is like mixed metaphors...blues musician, Big Muddy, fertilizer run-off.... BTW, I will be sold out soon if not already of this variety. Flavor? That's why I have a customer base...they tell me. Of course, I am hoping the Green Zebra background will show up with a tangy zing. There should be room in the segregants for nuances of flavor to emerge.

GOLDERN CRABAPPLE? The name came about in my head as a way to remember the cross direction.

Therefore, the female parent was an F-1...

Solid Gold is the first golden-yellow grape tomato that we feel has the flavor and taste to be classified as a true grape tomato. It produces clusters of over a dozen fruit that measure 1" in length and have the typical grape tomato shape to them. The fruit have a sweet taste with a hint of acid flavor and have the typical firmness and crack tolerance of other grapes. US Only.

The male parent was a cross of Silvery Fir Tree and my Apple Girl tomato and this was selfed out for a fuzzy leaf version of SFT. The paternal segregant has Apple in the name...thus Golden from SOLID GOLD, and Apple of the grandparent.

GOLDEN CRABAPPLE is the size of crabapples and has a really nice flavor. There is a bit of segregation still going on and I should have enough seed for folks around the world to tell me what they find and what they like.

Now to TPS...true potato seed. Yes, PAPA'S PICK is a strange name. PAPA AMARILLA was involved many generations ago in the maternal ascendancy. Solanum phureja and Solanum stenotomum was heavily used in the male line.
Some haploid tuberosum was introgressed to make for a wide and diverse mixture of genes. The final cross was between PAPA'S SUGAR AND SPECTATER. The last name indicates tater with spectacles. The name PICK came about because I "picked" berries among 70 +/- clones of this cross. The colors should be rampant...the flesh colors should be mostly deep yellow and the fact that diploids cannot self themselves...the pollen parents could be just about any diploid in the field...and there were many other diploid crosses.
PAPA'S PICK also has a hint of me...the papa (father) even though papa means potato or the Pope. This potato family/clones should be perfect to make a Cardinal Pick! Of course, one would have to buy the seed to find it.

SPECTATER has some interesting North Carolina pedigrees.

Recurrent maternal half-sib selection improves resistance to foliar late blight in a diploid hybrid Solanum phureja-Solanum stenotomum population

Recurrent selection for heat tolerance in diploid potatoes (solanum

tuberosum subsp.phureja and stenotomum)

As I think about my breeding work...I realize that I forget how important some of my TPS lines could be for folks anywhere. My TPS is a mixed bag of diversity and is full of potential tolerance such as heat and blight.

Tom Wagner

[Hastings]

I tried to order Muddy Waters last night and the website was telling me that you were already sold out...in 4 days.I was also interested in Soyuz Eleven, unfortunately with the same result. I was lucky enough to get Helsing ★★★★★★★★ Blues and Blue Match when you made them available earlier this year.

[travis]

How many orders does it take for a new Wagner line to become sold out at 15 seeds per packet? I ask because just looking at the 20 or so tomatoes in that one photograph, I'm estimating at least 150 to 200 packs of seeds right there!

[Boutique Tomatoes]

But think about how few truely unique varieties are released each year, Tom's status as a breeder and how many people are looking to grow the latest thing. Combine a worldwide customer base thanks to the internet with a email list of interested buyers that gets notified as soon as items are added to the store and things go quick.

I know after I missed getting in on the first round this year I've ordered within minutes of getting the email the last two times...

[loeb]

Yeah Sojuz Eleven.. If it has that smoky flavour it's worth waiting, I had that only once in tomatoes, and now I'm looking after varietes that could have it again. Papa's Pick can be a box full of nice suprises I was thinking of putting blue skin on a white tomato, I wonder if that could help retain that navy blue in fruit. Blue Snow White cherry.. I like that idea I like taste of Snow White cherry, well. I wonder how that blue would affect the taste, or maybe it would not. Blue Snow..

[The Future]

Got Sojuz Eleven and 2 others this time around. I maybe the only one hoping Tom Wagner doesn't release more varieties just yet. (kidding) Every time he does, my budget goes out the window

[loeb]

Haha no, you are not. I was thinking the same thing Grow Sojuz and save seeds

[roper2008]

Has anyone tried Matt's Jollies? Sounds interesting. Or is all this stuff
new?

[Dutch]

I've collected seeds to produce a bunch of white tomatoes and a bunch of blue tomatoes.
Guess what I'm up to?
Dutch

[Tom Wagner]

Every time I release a new batch of TPS or tomato varieties....my webmaster partner Rob puts them up for purchasing on the website newworldcrops.com and the listing goes PING...to all who have ever bought from me. The supply of many of my lines are limited and the sales of those go to the customers who are quick to respond. The site really favors established customers....folks that are loyal to the concept that rare means rare.

The Future is one of those loyal customers who seem to be dedicated to having a bit of everything I offer...thanks Future! I tend to put up new selections rather than what I had last year or what could be found elsewhere.

Speaking of white tomatoes that are also blue....I have the segregations for that going on but nothing that is full of the recessives I want....someday I will have one ....maybe this summer?

My webmaster turned the website into a blog catalog of sorts as new posts get sent out each time there is an update...and when the update is about new seeds...collectors are quick to pick a few or some of all. The way it is working....I may just do an update of new varieties every month or so. The old concept of only once a year to release a new variety or two is old school.

One thing I might warn folks about........the website is tricky about ordering...if you find a variety that is sold out, you must clear the inquiry with an X icon...otherwise the searching will also show sold out. I couldn't figure out how to order my own seeds with consulting with my webmaster. Our software is a bit rinkydink, but it eventually does it's job.

The sold out problem reminds me to look at the other 'Smokey' tomato varieties I have. The problem is that it takes hours to read all my notes are and then determine how much seed I have and whether or not it is somewhat stable for pertinent traits.

Gotta get back to my orders...sometime they come in every minute or so.

Tom Wagner