Siberian pink honey

[Minnesota Mato]

Who is growing siberian pink honey this year? I got mine in late but they are really setting alot of tomatoes right now. I just wondered with most people ahead of me if anyone was picking tomatoes yet and how they tasted? I got my seeds from ohio heirloom seeds.

[Father'sDaughter]

I also bought seeds from Ohio Heirloom for them and have two plants that went out at the end of May. Today I counted about 18 tomatoes between them ranging from baseball to pea size, and they still have plenty of flowers. I'm really looking forward to trying them.

[OneDahlia]

My plant doesn't have many tomatoes set yet, but it has lots of flowers. It's in the shadier side of the garden, and nothing over there is doing much yet. It is a huge, vigorous plant though.

[RobinB]

I'm growing three plants this year. Mine didn't get planted out until June 19 due to cold nights in the 30s. They are healthy and all have buds but that's it so far. I can't wait to taste them!

[kath]

I'm growing Pink Honey for the first time, too, this year- seeds from Ohio Heirloom as well. Only one plant set out on May 12 and kept pruned to a single vine, it's among the tallest of the large group of plants set out on that date and has been one of the easiest to keep to a single vine- no forking or excessive sucker production. It has set about 14 fruits so far and the largest looks to be in the 12-14oz range now but none have blushed yet. It seems to set 6-7 fruits in each spray of blossoms and has sprays evenly spaced along the length of the vine. I really like the plant habit and hope the fruit is good, too.

[janezee]

I'm growing it, too, for my biggie challenge. Kath, thanks so much for the pruning info. I'm about to plant 3 of them, since I lost a bunch of others, and I was wondering where to put them.

The seedlings have been some of my strongest. Can't wait to taste them!

j

[carolyn137]

I'm growing one plant if it's still alive out there. Freda hasn't had time to check, and Shoe in NC is supposed to be doing the seed production for me/

We had a thread here discussing why it's best not to add Siberian to the name, but I'm not going to take the time tonight to look for it.

So I'm growing it as Pink Honey, which is the way it was originally introduced to the US by Andrey in Belarus, back in 2007 who first SSE listed it:

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Pink_Honey

Tania also calls it Pink Honey and offers no alternative name as Siberian Pink Honey. The name in Russian does not contain the word Siberian.

[coloken]

I am going to ask straight out; is Ohio Heirloom Siberian pink honey the same as the other supplier"s pink honey? I am under the impression that it is not. He got it direct from Omsk Russia. He says LARGE, oxheart shaped fruit. Does that fit the pink honey seeds from other places? We need to decide if it is or isn't, now, before it gets too mixed up.
It still early for my plants, but I am impressed with it . Could b a keeper.
KennyP

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by coloken

I am going to ask straight out; is Ohio Heirloom Siberian pink honey the same as the other supplier"s pink honey? I am under the impression that it is not. He got it direct from Omsk Russia. He says LARGE, oxheart shaped fruit. Does that fit the pink honey seeds from other places? We need to decide if it is or isn't, now, before it gets too mixed up.
It still early for my plants, but I am impressed with it . Could b a keeper.
KennyP

If you look at the link to Tania's page for Pink Honey which I gave above she says and shows a pink heart shaped fruit for Pink Honey.

Same large pink heart shaped fruits is said for, I can't remember his name now, is it Larry, what he's been offering.

Also note at Tania's page that Andrey first listed it in the SSE YEarbook as far back as 2007, so not new at all.

Some have noted that the hearts are not always that heart shaped looking, more blunt, sometimes even plum shaped, see the pictures again at Tania's page for it and below a link to Google IMAGES for Pink Honey:

http://www.google.com/search?num=10&...BJH16gGo9tGZBg

Put your mouse pointer over a picture to confirm that what you're looking at is Pink Honey and please note the picture of Pink Honey on a seed pack with Russian language.

My major problem has been the inclusion of the word Siberia in the variety name as I spoke to in a post above. There have been many varieties from Siberia, both bred there and some heirloom varieties as well, yet I know of very few that have included the word Siberian in the variety name.

This was especially true of all the wonderful varieties brought back from Siberia by Bill McDorman ( High Altitude Seeds/Seeds Trust) when he was about the first person to go there and get seeds when travel restrictions were lifted. He bought back many varieties, Craig L and I bought them all and split the seeds between us, and not one had Siberian as part of the name.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...linka#mw-pages

Above there are hundreds of varieties from various places, as Tania notes, and I can go through those pages of varieties and spot many known to have come from Siberia yet do not have Siberian in the variety name.

OK, so maybe I've got a wee hang up on this, ,but again, if you look at Tania's page you'll also see that other places offering seeds are calling it just Pink Honey.

[coloken]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

If you look at the link to Tania's page for Pink Honey which I gave above she says and shows a pink heart shaped fruit for Pink Honey.

Same large pink heart shaped fruits is said for, I can't remember his name now, is it Larry, what he's been offering.

Also note at Tania's page that Andrey first listed it in the SSE YEarbook as far back as 2007, so not new at all.

Some have noted that the hearts are not always that heart shaped looking, more blunt, sometimes even plum shaped, see the pictures again at Tania's page for it and below a link to Google IMAGES for Pink Honey:

http://www.google.com/search?num=10&...BJH16gGo9tGZBg

Put your mouse pointer over a picture to confirm that what you're looking at is Pink Honey and please note the picture of Pink Honey on a seed pack with Russian language.

My major problem has been the inclusion of the word Siberia in the variety name as I spoke to in a post above. There have been many varieties from Siberia, both bred there and some heirloom varieties as well, yet I know of very few that have included the word Siberian in the variety name.

This was especially true of all the wonderful varieties brought back from Siberia by Bill McDorman ( High Altitude Seeds/Seeds Trust) when he was about the first person to go there and get seeds when travel restrictions were lifted. He bought back many varieties, Craig L and I bought them all and split the seeds between us, and not one had Siberian as part of the name.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...linka#mw-pages

Above there are hundreds of varieties from various places, as Tania notes, and I can go through those pages of varieties and spot many known to have come from Siberia yet do not have Siberian in the variety name.

OK, so maybe I've got a wee hang up on this, ,but again, if you look at Tania's page you'll also see that other places offering seeds are calling it just Pink Honey.

OK! and thank you Carolyn. It seems that the fruit description is the same . I will now drop the Siberian from my usage.
Please understand that when I get seed from some one and he says when and where he got it I respect the name that he uses and need a good reason to say that "it is the same as" some one Else's. I don't feel that i have the right until it is proven to me--which you have done .

[RobinB]

The one thing that is different between the two descriptions is the days to maturity. Tania's page says 80, and Mike from Ohio Heirloom says 50. I know days to maturity are not usually that accurate, but this is a fairly big difference. I guess we will know whether or not this is an extremely short season tomato or a mid-season tomato soon enough. Mine haven't even bloomed yet. I'm probably screwed if they are a mid-season tomato! Those of you that are getting close, please let us know when you get a ripe fruit (and how it tastes!)

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by RobinB

The one thing that is different between the two descriptions is the days to maturity. Tania's page says 80, and Mike from Ohio Heirloom says 50. I know days to maturity are not usually that accurate, but this is a fairly big difference. I guess we will know whether or not this is an extremely short season tomato or a mid-season tomato soon enough. Mine haven't even bloomed yet. I'm probably screwed if they are a mid-season tomato! Those of you that are getting close, please let us know when you get a ripe fruit (and how it tastes!)

Robin, Tania grows her tomatoes in BC, Canada and Mike grows his in OH. And different seasons in both places can result in different DTM's.

When I look at a single variety in the SSE YEarbooks I can see a HUGE range in DTM's that's dependent on where the variety was grown in a geographic sense, what the season was like in the particular season when the variety was grown, as well as other variables.

Which is why I consider DTM's to be pure guesstimates almost all of the time.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1...iw=757&bih=403

Take a look at the comments made about Pink Honey and rough DTM's at different places where seeds are offered in the link above.

And while Googling I also found that Mike had said that he got 10 seeds from a family friend in Omsk ( sp?), Siberia. But that doesn't say it's Siberian at all, since Andrey and others in all of the former USSR, now the CIS ( Commonwealth of Independent States) all had access to Pink Honey, since it's a CV ( commercial variety) . If you look at Tania's page for it she also says it was bred and not an OP, heirloom or otherwise.

[RobinB]

Wow, than you Carolyn! I didn't know that there could be so much difference in DTMs for one tomato! I'm still new at this, but I have always used DTMs to determine whether or not I should even try to grow something here in Reno. The description of Pink Honey at Ohio Heirloom Seeds sounds almost too good to be true... huge tomatoes in 50 days!? I so desperately wanted to grow a really big tomato! Well, we shall see what we shall see. This is the season to try it though! The patch where my three Pink Honey plants are gets full sun all day long, so that may help...

[janezee]

Robin, I'm with you. If it's 80 days, I'm in trouble. I grew it because of the 50 DTM, too. Well, I'm growing it in a pot, so it can be moved to the hoop house, if I ever get it built. Another rainy day here, and I'm tired of working in the wet. All my jeans are wet from the bottom up.

I'd guess that the 80 days is closer for me, too. Actually, because Tania's inland, and I'm out in Puget Sound, her weather is warmer than mine, although my season is slightly longer. Time will tell.

j

[Father'sDaughter]

I know you're all in different zones, so you probably won't see the same results, but here's one of my plants exactly 39 days after planting out.


One of the tomatoes is even looking like it's starting to show just the slightest hint of color.