a question on brandywine sudduth's strain

[tjg911]

this is the 1st year that i know for a fact i grew sudduth's strain. i have grown bw at least 1 maybe 2 other seasons many years ago but though yields were atrociously low, i wasn't all that impressed and never bothered to grow it again.

they taste fantastic, there is no denying that, and the yield so far has been good imo. i've picked at least 12, mostly quite large but see just 3 small green fruits on the plant now.

my question is does sudduth's tend to ripen all the fruits over a 10-14 day time period because mine did. i assume this is an indeterminate but i found it odd that 95% of the tomatoes ripened in such a short time span.

tom

[edweather]

First of all, my yields were (and continue to be) teriffic this year from mine. I am growing one plant in a 10 gallon container and have had over 20 1 lb+ fruits so far and many were over 1.5 lbs. Mine also appeared to ripen all at once, but I think it was because they all set at the same time when the weather was good in the spring. Mine seemed to ripen quickly also once they started. None set during the hot, dry summer and they all ripened together except for a few. It's definitely an indeterminate, just finicky about fruit set conditions. But when the conditions are right they REALLY set fruit! Now that the weather is cooperating again, there is another flush coming along. I'm trimming like mad trying to force these to ripen before frost.

[kath]

When I grew it I remember that it didn't set fruit well in the heat at all. I'm noticing that many of the plants I have left are in a real lull right now because of the heatwave we had earlier in the spring/summer.

kath

[tjg911]

i agree july was so hot that i doubt any fruit was set and now after the initial flush i actually have only 4-6 tomatoes on the table! the table should be covered with tomatoes. it is getting late, flowers now may produce on sun gold but full sized tomato plants are probably just not going to produce anything that hasn't already formed a fair sized tomato already. labor day i cut the tops on all the vines except sun gold to send the energy into the rest of the plant to ripen what is green. it's august but the growing season is almost over.

tom

[tam91]

I'm having a general lull also. But there are quite a few green ones on the plants, so I think I'll get plenty more (sure hope so).

[TightenUp]

i have a brandywine cross i am growing in a large SWC in northern jersey. over the past 10 days i have pulled tomatoes 1-18. they all hit me at once and it looks like the next few days will yield more. this is my only variety that did this to me so i thought i'd share since it has a brandywine backround.

by the way it looks like after the next few ripen i will be left with only a few fall tomatoes. i am happy getting over 20 and probably into the 30's with a brandywine cross. this might seem low to some but enough for me being a container rookie

[Dork Fish]

I have to say...I an a little disappointed with the taste of mine. Not sure if it is the way they taste or something about the way I grew them. Tam you may have to come try one of mine and tell me if they are tasting like they should...

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[tam91]

Thanks - I'll check my plant and see if any will ripen soon, perhaps we could compare?
I'm in a little bit of a lull just now, but hopefully more 'maters will ripen soon.

[carolyn137]

There are many so called Brandywine "strains", some not strains at all, and there's a thread here at Tville about what strains are or should be.

All I can say is that I've grown many of them and was the unofficial Prez of the Anti-Brandywine Association of the USA until Craig ( nctomatoman) sent me the Sudduth/Quisenberry one, which he got from Ken Ettlinger and Ken got the seeds from Ben Quisenberry.

And depending on the season that one I still think has the best production, smoothness of fruits and production of all the others I've grown.

Taste? Yes, excellent but do I think it's THE best tasting one around that many say is unique? No, I don't. Tom's Prue is one that I can ID just by the taste alone withough ever seeing the fruits. And if I thought about it a bit more I think I could come up with some others that to me have a unique taste. Translate, IMO there is no ONE unique taste.

There's been a tremendous amount of hype for the Sudduth one and I blame Craig and myself for that, in a way,since we've been tounting it for many years now, me at several message sites, Craig less so since he got involved with the Dwarf Project and is too busy to do anything else.

[Tormato]

After Carolyn's impeachment as unofficial Prez, I took over.

When Carolyn sent me seeds of the real Brandywine Sudduth, I also left office.

For me, Brandywine Sudduth is the best tasting tomato, when it is at it's best. That's about every third or fourth year, in my garden.

It's running in second place, so far, this year.

Gary

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Tormato

After Carolyn's impeachment as unofficial Prez, I took over.

When Carolyn sent me seeds of the real Brandywine Sudduth, I also left office.

For me, Brandywine Sudduth is the best tasting tomato, when it is at it's best. That's about every third or fourth year, in my garden.

It's running in second place, so far, this year.

Gary

Gary, Gary, Gary, I was not impeached I resigned after growing the Sudduth/Quisenberry strain, just as you did when I sent you the same and you grew it.

Should we nominate Tom as the new Prez of the anti-Brandywine Association of the US?

How about it Tom, now that you're retired you've got the time to deal with all the slings and arrows that will be tossed your way.

[tjg911]

nah, i'm neutral!

i'm the prez of the prue and wes club!

tom

[kenny_j]

I grew sudduth last year, and it was great, although the first few seemed bland, the rest were a lot better. This year I grew Cowlicks, and from what I remember, the cowlicks is better, more consistant in flavor, earlier, with about the same production, maybe a touch better. Next year I will grow them side by side. I also grew Stump and Earls Faux. Earls flavor is like a watered down BW, Stump is later than Cowlicks, with a very similar flavor. Carolyn, I grew Prue this year, and don't find it that impressive, yet. Only had a couple so the jury's still out. How can you ever be sure that you have the real thing? In many swaps or purchases of seed, you can't, IMHO.

[Dork Fish]

Tam, I think I have some that are probably ripe. Let me know...

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[tam91]

I will do. It'd be easier if we have one of mine to compare with, since I don't really have the taste memorized. I'll check today, and see how they are doing.