Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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December 28, 2012 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Hi Folks,
These tomatoes will be for a 50 person CSA program + two weekly farmer's markets. The early determinate varieties will be placed in 7-10 gallon grow bags and placed in the hoop-house for an early crop. 200-300 tomatoes will be placed in a 40' x 100' unheated hoop house for a main season crop. The remainder will be field planted on large pieces of landscaping fabric (15' x 300'). Here's what I've got so far (there are several redundancies, mostly for the sake of trialing certain varieties): Cherries: Black Cherry Green Zebra Cherry BHN 624 Juliet Sweet Chelsea VFNT Sweet Million FNT Jolly Sun Sugar FT Golden Rave Hybrid Red's Big Beef Royesta FFNT BHN 826 BHN 589 Better Bush VFN Early Girl VFF Improved Beefmaster VFN Mountain Spring Pinks Krypni-Rozo OP Red's Druzba Costoluto Genovese Small Fruited: Matina Flamme Kimberly Mountain Magic F1 Principe Borghese Orange / Yellow: Orange Russian 117 KBX Jubilee BHN 871 Mountain Gold VFF Azoychka Lemon Boy VFN Black Nyagous Paul Robeson Green Green Zebra Paste Yaqui Granadero Opalka Let me know what you think! I'd welcome any suggestions. I'm strictly looking for 'bullet proof' varieties with good vigor, production, disease resistance and holding power. I've grown some amazing tomatoes over the years, but they don't mean anything to our customers if they don't make a successful journey to the market / csa boxes! Thanks, Josh @ New Traditions Farm Last edited by newtraditionsfarm; December 28, 2012 at 06:09 PM. |
December 28, 2012 | #2 |
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The only thing I would add is if you can find a good strain of Rutgers for your area. It is a good producing dependable commercial strain from back in the days when commercial strains still had that classic "tomatoey" flavor. And still to this day, it is my favorite all purpose tomato and my favorite for tomato juice.
But there are several strains out there. Determinate, indeterminate and semi determinate plus a few cultivars with different improved disease resistance. Some are not as good as others. Maybe find a grower in the area for advise there?
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December 28, 2012 | #3 |
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Added! Rutgers Select or Rutgers VFA is the only question.
I'm also considering doing some grafting to maxi-fort root stock this year. My candidates for that experiment are: KBX, Orange Russian 117, Paul Robeson, Flamme & Green Zebra. Anyone have thoughts? |
December 28, 2012 | #4 |
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No pinks?
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December 28, 2012 | #5 |
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What do you suggest for pinks? Momotaro a good one? Last year I got treated seed and had to chuck it, never got to grow it out.
Also, I'd love a good oxheart suggestion. Maybe for grafting? Last edited by newtraditionsfarm; December 28, 2012 at 05:51 PM. |
December 28, 2012 | #6 |
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Josh,
You've got a very nice list! I noticed Krypni-Rozo on the list - I am thinking this is probably 'Violaceum Krypni-Rozo'? Then it should be a pink beefsteak. http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/V...um_Krypni-Rozo What's was your seed source for Violaceum Krypni-Rozo? I am curious because I grew it this year from seed purchased in 2006 from Heirloom Tomatoes, and they did not grow true to type producing medium red fruits. I am still looking for the 'real deal'
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December 28, 2012 | #7 |
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Hi Tania,
Yes indeed you are correct, and TGS is the seed source. Really looking forward to this one! |
December 28, 2012 | #8 |
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Re heart-shaped varieties - my favorites this year were Mayo's Delight, Volovsko Srce, Fresa, Grightmire's Pride. I also love Anna Russian.
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December 28, 2012 | #9 |
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Thank you! I am going there to buy a packet asap.
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December 28, 2012 | #10 |
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Out of those hearts what had the best production / least blemishes?
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December 28, 2012 | #11 | |
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No blemishes but less production - Fresa Mayo's Delight - moderate production, huge fruits are bound to have some imperfections.
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December 28, 2012 | #12 |
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For a cherry, determinate, pink, Tatiana's Anmore Treasures or Carol Knapp's Pink Tumbler. For a small sized multipurpose pink, indeterminate, Joe Laurer's German Pink Egg. Eva Purple Ball did really well for me last year, but it may not hold as long as you'd like. But it produced well, looked nice, and people liked it. |
January 1, 2013 | #13 |
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If you want bulletproof I can recommend Plum Regal F1, Tomatoberry F1, Sungold F1, Arkansas Traveler for a small pink and Plum Bush for a cast iron black that transports well and presents very well too.
Plum bush is one of the most productive black tomatoes I have ever grown. http://doublehelixfarms.com/plum-bush You have a nice list. Steve |
January 1, 2013 | #14 |
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Tania, and now I'm laughing a bit b'c in your link for this variety it's noted that I got the original seeds from Norbert in France in 1992 and SSE listed it and no doubt still have saved seeds somewhere.
But the only way I'll find them is for you to sometime make a list of all the ones you haven't been able to find and then somehow get to my home and do the searching yourself.And that b/c as you know I've never thrown out any saved seeds since 1991. It's far from among the best large pinks that I've grown, but is OK. Carolyn
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