Your description of Black Sea Man?

zeroma · January 24, 2013

I've been making a fact list of my seed inventory.

I use the Tania's first. Then go searching for more detail.

The one variety that seems to have sereral differing 'facts' is Black Sea Man.

What is your personal experience with growing it, fruit and plant size, disease resistance, and taste?

delltraveller · January 24, 2013

Potato leaf, determinate,purple-black beefsteak; grown in a 5 gallon bucket it's around 3'-4' tall and largest fruits about 4" across, largest fruits early on then decreasing in size; here it seems to give in to disease if the season is hot and dry but YMMV based on what lurks in your environment. Family really likes the flavor and it's usually one of the early ripeners here.

**carolyn137** · January 24, 2013

In the early 90's Marie Danilenko was the contact person for SSE in Moscow. She sent many varieties for several yars and the one you mention was one of them. The other one was Southern Night.

Both are det, PL with arge dark colored fruits and I trialed them for SSE when they first arrived, along with many others.

Here in upstate NY we have no serious problems with soilborne systemic diseases and I forgot where you are, possibly Ohio, I didn't go back to check b'c then I'd lose this post. So the major diseases for varieties in our area are the fungal and bacterial foliage diseases and to date, I've found NO variety that is totally tolerant to those although I do find that PL varieties tend to deal with those foliage diseases more kindly in most years.

The pathogen burden in the air us not the same every year which is why I say that,

But as time has gone on since the early 90's I've dicovered several other ones with dark colored fruits that I like much better. It all became the black fad as I see it and now there are hundreds of them.

My disclaimer is that I'm not that fond of the dark colored varieties, just me with regard to taste, so rely on Indian Stripe, Cherokee Purple,Black from Tula, Black Cherry and perhaps Kazachka, also a black cherry, when I'm in the mood to grow them.

Hope that helps,

Carolyn

zeroma · January 24, 2013

Thanks so much for your replies akgardengirl and Carolyn. I'll add to my date sheets with this new info. Especially the disease issue, and yes I'm in the Dayton, OH area Good memory.

Glad to know a 5 gal pot is the size I need. I'm thinking of making some Eco Felt containers to grow some of the seeds that will fit.

January 24, 2013	#1
zeroma Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 637	Your description of Black Sea Man? I've been making a fact list of my seed inventory. I use the Tania's first. Then go searching for more detail. The one variety that seems to have sereral differing 'facts' is Black Sea Man. What is your personal experience with growing it, fruit and plant size, disease resistance, and taste?

January 24, 2013	#2
delltraveller Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Iowa Posts: 481	Potato leaf, determinate,purple-black beefsteak; grown in a 5 gallon bucket it's around 3'-4' tall and largest fruits about 4" across, largest fruits early on then decreasing in size; here it seems to give in to disease if the season is hot and dry but YMMV based on what lurks in your environment. Family really likes the flavor and it's usually one of the early ripeners here. Last edited by delltraveller; January 24, 2013 at 03:56 PM.

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carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	In the early 90's Marie Danilenko was the contact person for SSE in Moscow. She sent many varieties for several yars and the one you mention was one of them. The other one was Southern Night. Both are det, PL with arge dark colored fruits and I trialed them for SSE when they first arrived, along with many others. Here in upstate NY we have no serious problems with soilborne systemic diseases and I forgot where you are, possibly Ohio, I didn't go back to check b'c then I'd lose this post. So the major diseases for varieties in our area are the fungal and bacterial foliage diseases and to date, I've found NO variety that is totally tolerant to those although I do find that PL varieties tend to deal with those foliage diseases more kindly in most years. The pathogen burden in the air us not the same every year which is why I say that, But as time has gone on since the early 90's I've dicovered several other ones with dark colored fruits that I like much better. It all became the black fad as I see it and now there are hundreds of them. My disclaimer is that I'm not that fond of the dark colored varieties, just me with regard to taste, so rely on Indian Stripe, Cherokee Purple,Black from Tula, Black Cherry and perhaps Kazachka, also a black cherry, when I'm in the mood to grow them. Hope that helps, Carolyn __________________ Carolyn