Working on Micro Tom cross

OtterJon · March 20, 2013

Hey all working on crossing Micro-Tom, an extreme dwarf pimpinellifolium and Indigo Rose, and was wondering besides the one Sungold cross I have seen, ...has anyone else here played with Micro Tom in a cross experiment? I also may need a few people for some grow outs in the near future...if anyones interested..I still have a ways to go before that happens, but just a heads up.

**carolyn137** · March 20, 2013

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Originally Posted by OtterJon

Hey all working on crossing Micro-Tom, an extreme dwarf pimpinellifolium and Indigo Rose, and was wondering besides the one Sungold cross I have seen, ...has anyone else here played with Micro Tom in a cross experiment? I also may need a few people for some grow outs in the near future...if anyones interested..I still have a ways to go before that happens, but just a heads up.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Micro_Tom

I don't think Micro-Tom is a currant variety as you wrote above and as indicated at the link above.

Very short, yes, but not a currant as far as I know and not a true Dwarf and especially since it was developed by Dr. Jay Scott in FL.

Hope that helps,

Carolyn

OtterJon · March 20, 2013

Hey Carolyn,

Been off the radar for a while due to a nasty divorce, hope you are doing ok....No I know Micro Tom's lineage...I am crossing it with an extreme dwarf pimp from TGRC AND the OSU Indigo Rose...I am quite a ways into my project, but just wondering if anyone else has toyed with micro tom before...I know the japanese use it as a test subject for mutations, as it grow quickly and is small...just curious...god I hope no one crosses it with Delicious or something huge LOL...Take care friend. PS I know it will taste like ★★★...but should be pretty and productive.

**carolyn137** · March 20, 2013

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Originally Posted by OtterJon

Hey Carolyn,

Been off the radar for a while due to a nasty divorce, hope you are doing ok....No I know Micro Tom's lineage...I am crossing it with an extreme dwarf pimp from TGRC AND the OSU Indigo Rose...I am quite a ways into my project, but just wondering if anyone else has toyed with micro tom before...I know the japanese use it as a test subject for mutations, as it grow quickly and is small...just curious...god I hope no one crosses it with Delicious or something huge LOL...Take care friend. PS I know it will taste like ★★★...but should be pretty and productive.

I read it as:

(Hey all working on crossing Micro-Tom, an extreme dwarf pimpinellifolium and Indigo Rose, and was wondering besides the one Sungold cross I have seen, ...has anyone)

So crossing Micro-Tom with Indigo Rose.

OK, a dwarf currant from TGRC and Indigo Rose.

What do you expect from that cross, or hope for, I should say.

Glad to see you back UNDER the radar.

Carolyn

OtterJon · March 20, 2013

Prolly wrote it wrong...it's a three way cross...but what I expect will be a small pimp with blue/dark purple fruits...I have the pimp cross...just working on the Indigo rose....it's gonna take a lot more plants...but hopeful....It won't be any good taster...but should look nice and fun...take care,

Jon

Dutch · March 20, 2013

Welcome back Jon. I plan on grewing some big sunflowers this year. Thanks for the seeds,
Dutch

OtterJon · March 20, 2013

Great Dutch!...Hydra should do well....that was one crazy sunflower...I'm not in a situation to grow it myself...good luck...and would love to see pics if they germinate

ChrisK · March 21, 2013

Not Micro-Tom but I have made crosses with other extreme dwarfs. The F2s are 4" tall and flowering under fluorescent lights.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OtterJon

Hey all working on crossing Micro-Tom, an extreme dwarf pimpinellifolium and Indigo Rose, and was wondering besides the one Sungold cross I have seen, ...has anyone else here played with Micro Tom in a cross experiment? I also may need a few people for some grow outs in the near future...if anyones interested..I still have a ways to go before that happens, but just a heads up.

OtterJon · March 21, 2013

Nice Cris! I am growing indoors as well.. Just don't hear much about really small plants much...extreme dwarfs are kinda fun, sure don't take up as much room as an indoor brandywine lol.

Jon

ChrisK · March 23, 2013

I'll probably do a blog post when I see the fruit. I'm looking for striped in the first cross. I've got about 10-12 F1's of micros to grow this year.

ChrisK · March 28, 2013

Here is one of the crosses I made last year. An F2 plant, 5" tall, flowering in a 4" pot.

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Originally Posted by OtterJon

Nice Cris! I am growing indoors as well.. Just don't hear much about really small plants much...extreme dwarfs are kinda fun, sure don't take up as much room as an indoor brandywine lol.

Jon

lakelady · March 30, 2013

Hey John, great to see you back! Sounds like a fun cross. I don't do intentional crosses, but am always happy to grow some out. Specially since yours sounds like a small guy I could fit in pots around the yard since space is tight. Let me know when you are looking for growers

OtterJon · April 2, 2013

Will do Antoniette! Thanks for welcoming me back....been a bit rough but I'll be ok...I am getting more into the extreme dwarfs now, as my space is much more limited than it used to be, and yes these guys are so small...you really can have a ton of fun little plants...just had one of my extreme pimps come up with three cotyledons! Last time I had one come up with multiples...it was 4 and didnt survive...this guy is really stunted, with a thicker stem, and is starting to produce tiny leaves...so maybe I'll get a fun freak to take care of..lol...the new batch of microtoms are under the lights and looking good, though they are only two weeks up...Chris I would love to own a couple of your F2's sometime if willing to part with seeds...that is a nice looking plant!...take care all!

Jon

ChrisK · April 2, 2013

Would love to send you some seeds. The more growers the better! If you can wait a month I should have some F3 seed from those flowering now, I'll send you a PM.

I find it hard to tell determinate from indeterminate in these tiny plants!

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Originally Posted by OtterJon

Will do Antoniette! Thanks for welcoming me back....been a bit rough but I'll be ok...I am getting more into the extreme dwarfs now, as my space is much more limited than it used to be, and yes these guys are so small...you really can have a ton of fun little plants...just had one of my extreme pimps come up with three cotyledons! Last time I had one come up with multiples...it was 4 and didnt survive...this guy is really stunted, with a thicker stem, and is starting to produce tiny leaves...so maybe I'll get a fun freak to take care of..lol...the new batch of microtoms are under the lights and looking good, though they are only two weeks up...Chris I would love to own a couple of your F2's sometime if willing to part with seeds...that is a nice looking plant!...take care all!

Jon

lakelady · April 2, 2013

I always say there is a tomato for everyone. In an apartment, or in a house, anyone can grow a tomato plant, and yes, the little guys are perfect for small spaces and allow folks the joy of growing their own.

Good luck guys!

March 20, 2013	#1
OtterJon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Working on Micro Tom cross Hey all working on crossing Micro-Tom, an extreme dwarf pimpinellifolium and Indigo Rose, and was wondering besides the one Sungold cross I have seen, ...has anyone else here played with Micro Tom in a cross experiment? I also may need a few people for some grow outs in the near future...if anyones interested..I still have a ways to go before that happens, but just a heads up. __________________ "The truth is a friend of mine..Sometimes he ain't too kind, but he always gets it right" Last edited by OtterJon; March 20, 2013 at 06:32 PM.

March 20, 2013	#3
OtterJon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Hey Carolyn, Been off the radar for a while due to a nasty divorce, hope you are doing ok....No I know Micro Tom's lineage...I am crossing it with an extreme dwarf pimp from TGRC AND the OSU Indigo Rose...I am quite a ways into my project, but just wondering if anyone else has toyed with micro tom before...I know the japanese use it as a test subject for mutations, as it grow quickly and is small...just curious...god I hope no one crosses it with Delicious or something huge LOL...Take care friend. PS I know it will taste like ★★★...but should be pretty and productive. __________________ "The truth is a friend of mine..Sometimes he ain't too kind, but he always gets it right"

March 20, 2013	#5
OtterJon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Prolly wrote it wrong...it's a three way cross...but what I expect will be a small pimp with blue/dark purple fruits...I have the pimp cross...just working on the Indigo rose....it's gonna take a lot more plants...but hopeful....It won't be any good taster...but should look nice and fun...take care, Jon __________________ "The truth is a friend of mine..Sometimes he ain't too kind, but he always gets it right"

March 20, 2013	#7
OtterJon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Great Dutch!...Hydra should do well....that was one crazy sunflower...I'm not in a situation to grow it myself...good luck...and would love to see pics if they germinate __________________ "The truth is a friend of mine..Sometimes he ain't too kind, but he always gets it right"

March 21, 2013	#9
OtterJon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Nice Cris! I am growing indoors as well.. Just don't hear much about really small plants much...extreme dwarfs are kinda fun, sure don't take up as much room as an indoor brandywine lol. Jon __________________ "The truth is a friend of mine..Sometimes he ain't too kind, but he always gets it right" Last edited by OtterJon; March 21, 2013 at 01:55 PM.

March 20, 2013	#6
Dutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: S.E. Wisconsin Zone 5b Posts: 1,831	Welcome back Jon. I plan on grewing some big sunflowers this year. Thanks for the seeds, Dutch

March 23, 2013	#10
ChrisK Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,448	I'll probably do a blog post when I see the fruit. I'm looking for striped in the first cross. I've got about 10-12 F1's of micros to grow this year. __________________ Blog: chriskafer.wordpress.com Ignorance more frequently begets knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science. --Charles Darwin

March 30, 2013	#12
lakelady Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: northern NJ zone 6b Posts: 1,862	Hey John, great to see you back! Sounds like a fun cross. I don't do intentional crosses, but am always happy to grow some out. Specially since yours sounds like a small guy I could fit in pots around the yard since space is tight. Let me know when you are looking for growers __________________ Antoniette

April 2, 2013	#13
OtterJon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 218	Will do Antoniette! Thanks for welcoming me back....been a bit rough but I'll be ok...I am getting more into the extreme dwarfs now, as my space is much more limited than it used to be, and yes these guys are so small...you really can have a ton of fun little plants...just had one of my extreme pimps come up with three cotyledons! Last time I had one come up with multiples...it was 4 and didnt survive...this guy is really stunted, with a thicker stem, and is starting to produce tiny leaves...so maybe I'll get a fun freak to take care of..lol...the new batch of microtoms are under the lights and looking good, though they are only two weeks up...Chris I would love to own a couple of your F2's sometime if willing to part with seeds...that is a nice looking plant!...take care all! Jon __________________ "The truth is a friend of mine..Sometimes he ain't too kind, but he always gets it right"