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Old May 5, 2013   #1
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Default Different foliage for tomato plants

Hello, I am looking to learn about and grow tomato plants with different foliage. I have grown RL and PL. I have read a little about furry foliage and different colored foliage, also a leaf that has three colors to it. Could you enlighten me on the names of these and some varieties I can look for with interesting foliage?

Variety is the spice of life; I like to mix it up each year.

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Some that interest me:

Stick/Curl
Variegated
Angora
Angora Orange

You might want to check here too.

They are all listed in the Tomatobase.

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http://faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/t...539004321.html

And the above might help as well.

I don't know of any varieties with three colored leaves unless it's a variegated leaf variety with diseased leaves.

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I'm growing Tom Wagners Woolly Kate this year. This a really really furry blue cherry. Its like a tomato plan with lamb ear leaves.

I wanted a good looking tomato plant for the rose bed on the patio and this one is perfect. Last year I did Seattles Woolly Blue Mammoth with was nice looking but the tomato flavor was just so so.
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http://faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/t...539004321.html

And the above might help as well.

I don't know of any varieties with three colored leaves unless it's a variegated leaf variety with diseased leaves.

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I had to find the book I read it in, but I found it. Amy Goldman's book, page 22.

"Variegated refers to a rare tricolor leaf."

She has a picture on page 20, bottem right corner of a leaf that is part white, dark green and light green and it looks so strange and interesting.

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I'm growing Tom Wagners Woolly Kate this year. This a really really furry blue cherry. Its like a tomato plan with lamb ear leaves.

I wanted a good looking tomato plant for the rose bed on the patio and this one is perfect. Last year I did Seattles Woolly Blue Mammoth with was nice looking but the tomato flavor was just so so.
That is interesting. You must tell me how it tastes and grows for you. I am very VERY interested in growing Tom's Helsing ★★★★★★★★ Blues. My husband is very interested in this one and he doesn't go gaga for tomato looks, so I think I am going to try and get ahold of that one next year for him. It is currently out of stock at Tom's site.

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Some that interest me:

Stick/Curl
Variegated
Angora
Angora Orange

You might want to check here too.

They are all listed in the Tomatobase.

Tl
That stick tomato looks really neat! I want to try that one for sure. Variegated looks neat too, but I have a hard time finding that one, at least when I looked last year I did. Have you tasted any of these? It would be ideal to find a neat leaf and good taste even if not stellar.

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I had to find the book I read it in, but I found it. Amy Goldman's book, page 22.

"Variegated refers to a rare tricolor leaf."

She has a picture on page 20, bottem right corner of a leaf that is part white, dark green and light green and it looks so strange and interesting.

Lindsey
No, variegated doesn't refer to a tricolor leaf, far from it, and no, Variegated, as the only variegated one that comes true from seeds, is not rare.

Lindsey, I was about the first person in the US to receive plants and seeds for this variety, so I know it well.

SSE listed it, sent seeds to several seed vendors, offered inmyannualseedoffers here asI recall, and in general, spread it around, until seeds became more avaialable

This AM I wrote a long post to you giving you the history, taken from my original listing for it, the first, in the SSE Yearbook, then gave you some image links and then said much more and then BOOM, my DSL went out again.

I'll have to try to do it again, probably at night or in the early AM when the DSL is better b/c right now I don't want to take a chance on writing a long post and losing it.

Yes, Verizon is working on solving it but we're going into week two of this but at leastnow I don't have to deal with India and a local Verizon man is dealing with it.

Summary, there are no tri-colored leaves and when I get the opportunity to try and repeat that long post you'll see why.

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No, variegated doesn't refer to a tricolor leaf, far from it, and no, Variegated, as the only variegated one that comes true from seeds, is not rare.

Lindsey, I was about the first person in the US to receive plants and seeds for this variety, so I know it well.

SSE listed it, sent seeds to several seed vendors, offered inmyannualseedoffers here asI recall, and in general, spread it around, until seeds became more avaialable

This AM I wrote a long post to you giving you the history, taken from my original listing for it, the first, in the SSE Yearbook, then gave you some image links and then said much more and then BOOM, my DSL went out again.

I'll have to try to do it again, probably at night or in the early AM when the DSL is better b/c right now I don't want to take a chance on writing a long post and losing it.

Yes, Verizon is working on solving it but we're going into week two of this but at leastnow I don't have to deal with India and a local Verizon man is dealing with it.

Summary, there are no tri-colored leaves and when I get the opportunity to try and repeat that long post you'll see why.

Carolyn
That's too bad..I can't wait to read what you have for me. We live in the country and get terrible service at times, great at other times. So I can relate. No tri-colored leaves? Bummer. That sounded so interesting.

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Carolyn,

While you are having issues, you might try composing the posts offline in a program like Notepad, Wordpad or even Word. That way you could save them and when you are online you would just need to do a "copy / paste" to the forum.

I know I've lost long posts too when for some reason when I hit "post" the forum locks up. It can be frustrating and rewriting the posts never comes out the same.

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Here in a few weeks when I plant out I will be cataloging all of the varieties I'm growing this year as the variations even at this stage are interesting.

I did take a few quick snaps

Yamali Blue is a wooly type from Tom Wagner's 'Seattle's Wooly Blue Mammoth" line.



Magia Rosa is an elongated cherry bred by Fred Hemple. This type is one that has strongly serrated leaves that are easy to pick out.



Antho foilage type - this is a F2 breeding line from Double Helix Farms. This type shows the atv gene expression where the leaves and stem have anthocyanin accumulation making them a kind of purple color.

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That stick tomato looks really neat! I want to try that one for sure. Variegated looks neat too, but I have a hard time finding that one, at least when I looked last year I did. Have you tasted any of these? It would be ideal to find a neat leaf and good taste even if not stellar.

Lindsey
Stick and variegated are decent tasting red round tomatoes. While
interesting, their flavor does not put them in the must grow
every year category.

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Here in a few weeks when I plant out I will be cataloging all of the varieties I'm growing this year as the variations even at this stage are interesting.

I did take a few quick snaps

Yamali Blue is a wooly type from Tom Wagner's 'Seattle's Wooly Blue Mammoth" line.



Magia Rosa is an elongated cherry bred by Fred Hemple. This type is one that has strongly serrated leaves that are easy to pick out.



Antho foilage type - this is a F2 breeding line from Double Helix Farms. This type shows the atv gene expression where the leaves and stem have anthocyanin accumulation making them a kind of purple color.

Wow, those are neat! I could see using those as ornamentals, no problem.

Any thoughts on the tastes?


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Maglia Rosa and Blush both have the second foilage type and are excellent tasting tomatoes. The other two are still segregating, but should be in my "Blue Tomato Variety Tasting" this fall.
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"This AM I wrote a long post to you giving you the history, taken from my original listing for it, the first, in the SSE Yearbook, then gave you some image links and then said much more and then BOOM, my DSL went out again.

I'll have to try to do it again, probably at night or in the early AM when the DSL is better b/c right now I don't want to take a chance on writing a long post and losing it."


Carolyn -

If your network connection is flaky, write the text of your post in a word processor on your computer then cut and paste into the message box. Eliminates the risk and frustration of losing your work due to a dropped connection.

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