Bio-terrorism! (horrible pix)

dcarch · September 21, 2006

In less then a week's time, all plants went from healthy to this!!
In Zone 6, I am supposed to have another month or more of growing harvest time left!!!

dcarch

bizzarbazzar · September 21, 2006

YIKES. I feel for you...big time

Polar_Lace · September 21, 2006

It's not Bio-terrorism; it's late-night frosts!

My weather: National Weather Service - NOAA just type in your zipcode & see yours.

2 Day History

Any temperature below 50º F will cause it on tomatoes.

Worth1 · September 22, 2006

Thems fryen tamaters. :wink:

Worth

dcarch · September 22, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar_Lace

It's not Bio-terrorism; it's late-night frosts!

Actually, according to my remote recording thermometer, the nighttime temp never went below 63 degrees. It's all kinds of blights and who knows what else.

I am going to need help to do something to sanitize because I don't have space to rotate crops. I have to grow in the same space again.

dcarch

landarc · September 22, 2006

We used to steam the soil in the nursery beds. Kills everything minus the nerve gas that was my dad's favorite ultimate solution. Do you have time to remove them maters' fry em up and get some plastic over the beds to solarize for a while? Will that kill the pathogens that cause blight anyway?

Haha...when the county took our nursery for flood control, it became a superfund site. Some interesting stories there...

Tomstrees · September 22, 2006

ouuuuufaaaa ~
Not looking so good -
I had a couple looking liek that here in NJ
this summer ...
Had to give the old "yank-a-roo" ...
Fried green maters it was ~

Tom

Worth1 · September 22, 2006

I can send you about 50 lbs of gun powder.
Just mix it in the soil and light it off, that should the trick.

dcarch · September 22, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by landarc

We used to steam the soil in the nursery beds. Kills everything minus the nerve gas that was my dad's favorite ultimate solution. Do you have time to remove them maters' fry em up and get some plastic over the beds to solarize for a while? Will that kill the pathogens that cause blight anyway?

Haha...when the county took our nursery for flood control, it became a superfund site. Some interesting stories there...

dcarch · September 22, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worth1

I can send you about 50 lbs of gun powder.
Just mix it in the soil and light it off, that should the trick.

You are not that far off. I am trying to find out more about sulfur based fungicide to mix with the soil to sanitize it.

dcarch

Fert1 · September 22, 2006

Well if you find something that doesn't sound too difficult, that will work, let me know too. I also have diseased soil now. Bummer!

bizzarbazzar · September 22, 2006

Not organic, but I just read this on another website, thought it might interest you

Profile: Telone® C-35 soil fungicide and nematicide controls all major species of nematodes, including root knot, lesion, stubby root, dagger, ring, pin and cyst nematodes. The addition of chloropicrin allows Telone C-35 to have significant activity on soil diseases, such as Fusarium, Verticillium, pink root, Phytophthora and Pythium. Telone C-35 is injected into the soil as a liquid and immediately converts to a gas, creating a zone of protection around developing roots. As a fumigant, Telone moves throughout the soil profile on its own, rather than requiring water or incorporation for movement.

Worth1 · September 23, 2006

The gun powder I have doesn’t have sulfur, it is nitro glycerin or nitro cellulose based.

Smells good too. 8)

I have often wondered if building a big bonfire on the spot would do the trick.
Probably not as the heat would not go deep enough since heat rises.
Im going to check into the tera petra farming the they did in south America 1,000 years ago.
I think that it may be just the thing.

Worth

username5 · September 23, 2006

Haven't used it yet, but will be in 2007 as I have heard good things from gardeners about it and googling on T22 shows what appears to be solid research showing it's benefits.

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/catalog/p...ield&item=9346

Utilizes a mycoparasitic fungi to encapsulate the roots of plants. Supposedly this fungi then kills off all common fungal pathogens trying to enter the roots as well as provides some protection from other pathogens.

Evidently I introduced some bad stuff in 2005 because in 2006 I lost all my maters 2-3 weeks ago to some disease or the other that clearly worked it's way up the plant from the soil. Prior to 2006 I considered tomatos bulletproof in my garden as nothing bad every happened to them. Plant and forget really. Not any more. Now there is a war on and I have no moral qualms about using biological warfare. Better than chemical warfare I guess.

If the root shield doesn't work I think I will try pouring gasoline on my soil and lighting it all in fire. Kind of like napalm

Either that or just give up on in ground plantings and grow in containers only. That seems to be the direction I have been moving the last couple years as I find I have much less trouble with container plants than I do soil plants.

Worth1 · September 23, 2006

Well it's not tera petra,
I'll keep looking.
I got tera patric.

September 21, 2006	#1
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September 21, 2006	#3
Polar_Lace Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Z8b, Texas Posts: 657	It's not Bio-terrorism; it's late-night frosts! My weather: National Weather Service - NOAA just type in your zipcode & see yours. 2 Day History Any temperature below 50º F will cause it on tomatoes. __________________ It's not how many seeds you sow. Nor how many plants you transplant. It's about how many of them can survive your treatment of them.

September 22, 2006	#6
landarc Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Left Coasty Posts: 964	We used to steam the soil in the nursery beds. Kills everything minus the nerve gas that was my dad's favorite ultimate solution. Do you have time to remove them maters' fry em up and get some plastic over the beds to solarize for a while? Will that kill the pathogens that cause blight anyway? Haha...when the county took our nursery for flood control, it became a superfund site. Some interesting stories there... __________________ Lets see...$10 for Worth and $5 for Fusion, man. Tomatoes are expensive! Bob

September 22, 2006	#7
Tomstrees Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Bayshore Posts: 3,848	ouuuuufaaaa ~ Not looking so good - I had a couple looking liek that here in NJ this summer ... Had to give the old "yank-a-roo" ... Fried green maters it was ~ Tom __________________ My green thumb came only as a result of the mistakes I made while learning to see things from the plant's point of view. ~ H. Fred Ale

September 22, 2006	#11
Fert1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Upstate SC, Zone 7 Posts: 543	Well if you find something that doesn't sound too difficult, that will work, let me know too. I also have diseased soil now. Bummer! __________________ Holly

September 21, 2006	#2
bizzarbazzar Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Butte, MT Posts: 811	YIKES. I feel for you...big time

September 22, 2006	#4
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Thems fryen tamaters. :wink: Worth

September 23, 2006	#13
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	The gun powder I have doesn’t have sulfur, it is nitro glycerin or nitro cellulose based. Smells good too. 8) I have often wondered if building a big bonfire on the spot would do the trick. Probably not as the heat would not go deep enough since heat rises. Im going to check into the tera petra farming the they did in south America 1,000 years ago. I think that it may be just the thing. Worth

September 23, 2006	#14
username5 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Zone 5 Wisconsin Posts: 117	Haven't used it yet, but will be in 2007 as I have heard good things from gardeners about it and googling on T22 shows what appears to be solid research showing it's benefits. http://www.johnnyseeds.com/catalog/p...ield&item=9346 Utilizes a mycoparasitic fungi to encapsulate the roots of plants. Supposedly this fungi then kills off all common fungal pathogens trying to enter the roots as well as provides some protection from other pathogens. Evidently I introduced some bad stuff in 2005 because in 2006 I lost all my maters 2-3 weeks ago to some disease or the other that clearly worked it's way up the plant from the soil. Prior to 2006 I considered tomatos bulletproof in my garden as nothing bad every happened to them. Plant and forget really. Not any more. Now there is a war on and I have no moral qualms about using biological warfare. Better than chemical warfare I guess. If the root shield doesn't work I think I will try pouring gasoline on my soil and lighting it all in fire. Kind of like napalm Either that or just give up on in ground plantings and grow in containers only. That seems to be the direction I have been moving the last couple years as I find I have much less trouble with container plants than I do soil plants.